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The Sound of Economics brings you insights, debates, and research-based discussions on economic policy in Europe and beyond. The podcast is produced by Bruegel, an independent and non-doctrinal think tank based in Brussels. It seeks to contribute to European and global economic policy-making through open, fact-based, and policy-relevant research, analysis, and debate.

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In this episode of The Sound of Economics, host Rebecca Christie discusses financial stability with Bruegel Director Jeromin Zettelmeyer and Olaf Sleijpen, President of De Nederlandsche Bank and a member of the European Central Bank (ECB) Governing C... more

In this special live episode of The Sound of Economics, host Rebecca Christie speaks with Bruegel Director Jeromin Zettelmeyer, Deputy Director Simone Tagliapietra and Non-resident Fellow Elina Ribakova about the 2026 State of the Union speech, deliv... more

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In this episode of The Sound of Economics, host Rebecca Christie sits down with Philip Luck, director of the Center for Strategic and International Studies economics programme, and Bruegel’s Ignacio García Bercero and Jacob Funk Kirkegaard to discuss... more

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In this episode of The Sound of Economics, host Rebecca Christie speaks with Bruegel’s Heather Grabbe and Stefanie Walter about Iceland’s referendum on restarting European Union accession talks, Switzerland’s upcoming votes on EU relations and what E... more

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Philip Luck
Senior fellow at CSIS
Center for Strategic and International Studies
Episode: What the US-Canada trade war means for Europe
Ignacio García Bercero
Bruegel senior fellow and trade policy expert
Bruegel
Episode: What the US-Canada trade war means for Europe
Jacob Funk Kirkegaard
Senior fellow at Bruegel and economist
Bruegel
Episode: What the US-Canada trade war means for Europe
Heather Grabbe
Political scientist, Bruegel researcher
Bruegel
Episode: Iceland, Switzerland, Europe
Stefanie Walter
Political scientist, Bruegel researcher
Bruegel
Episode: Iceland, Switzerland, Europe
Nicolas Véron
Bruegel economist and senior fellow
Bruegel
Episode: Europe’s new anti-money laundering agency
Jim Freis
Former head of FinCEN and banking/financial crime veteran
Former US FinCEN; former Deutsche Börse
Episode: Europe’s new anti-money laundering agency
Karel Lannoo
Head of the Center for European Policy Studies
Centre for European Policy Studies (CEPS)
Episode: Billionaires? In this economy?
David de Jong
Author of book on Nazi-era billionaire families
Author, book on Nazi billionaires
Episode: Billionaires? In this economy?

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Yuyun Zhan
Host of The Sound of Economics; Bruegel; ZhōngHuá Mundus involvement
Rebecca Christie
Host of The Sound of Economics; Bruegel

Reviews

4.7 out of 5 stars from 121 ratings
  • This is not a podcast about economics

    The podcast is not about economics. It consists of professors in political science talking about how great they think the EU is.

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    The real Discipulus
    Denmarka year ago
  • Excellent podcast super credible contributors

    For anyone who is a interested in trade or other aspects of economics, this podcast gets into the weeds with real expert contributors.

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    savod1977
    Ireland3 years ago
  • Good indepth

    Podcast Addict
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    DaniDani
    4 years ago
  • Good indepth

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    Dani
    4 years ago
  • Good, inspirational Bruegel content

    The first two episodes have covered important and interesting topics in an enlightening way for the uninitiated and the more knowledgable alike. The insights from Bruegel scholars in this new format are inspiring!

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    LeaFov
    Denmark10 years ago

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Content can be dense but rewarding for listeners seeking depth in economics and policy.
Guest mix offers strong policy and academic perspectives.
Experts provide credible, data-driven insights for EU and global economics.

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Europe’s new anti-money laundering agency
Q: My understanding is that starting from 2028, they'll have a list of about 40 entities that they will be directly overseeing. Is that how to think about AMLA's direct authority?
Yes, AMLA is expected to directly supervise a limited set of entities (around 40 initially) while coordinating with national authorities for a much larger pool, with the aim of harmonizing practices across the EU and leveraging data, governance, and FIU collaboration to raise overall effectiveness.
Europe’s new anti-money laundering agency
Q: Nicolas, you've been working on these issues for a long time. How big a deal is it that we have AMLA now?
AMLA is a big deal. It represents a coordinated EU-level tool to tackle AML across member states, moving beyond scattered directives to a unified framework with a hub-and-spokes architecture that coordinates national FIUs and strengthens enforcement across the single market.
Billionaires? In this economy?
Q: What lessons from Nazi-era industrialists are most relevant for voters and policymakers now?
That industrialists had agency and made choices that either supported or harmed democratic institutions; thus, contemporary leaders must scrutinize private power and ensure it aligns with public interests.
Billionaires? In this economy?
Q: Why is it important to examine billionaire influence in geopolitics today?
It shapes policy, tax regimes, and welfare systems, affects democracy and media, and mirrors historical periods where private wealth interacted closely with government.
The battle for the AI stack
Q: Can you explain what it means that the AI stack is five layers and why it matters who controls each layer?
The five layers—energy, hardware, software, models, and applications—form an ecosystem where each layer must be functionsally present; control of these layers determines strategic leverage, with the US currently stronger in compute while Europe needs to build domestic capacity to reduce dependence on US and Chinese ecosystems.

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Known for conversant, policy-focused discussions, this show frequently covers European and global economics with a strong emphasis on policy implications, monetary systems, and geopolitical factors. Recent episodes cycle through topics such as labor market resilience and job quality in the face of AI and automation, the design and politics of safe assets in the euro area, the global AI stack and Europe's sovereignty, Brexit-era EU dynamics, and China–Europe trade and technology dynamics. Noteworthy aspects include in-depth, multi-guest conversations featuring leading think-tank researchers and policy-makers, a willingness to tackle complex regulatory and macroeconomic questions, and a tendency to connect technical topics (like ETS or AI gov... more

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