
we all contain multitudes — fast & slow, hard & soft, open & closed — so let’s talk about them. a podcast from the creators of The Slow Home (RIP), each episode is a human-made, homegrown, perfectly imperfect conversation about life's either/or's and the vast grey area in between. brookemcalary.substack.com
| Publishes | Weekly | Episodes | 393 | Founded | 12 years ago |
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| Number of Listeners | Categories | PhilosophySociety & Culture | |||

Whether it’s food, beauty products, or the state of our home, describing something as ‘clean’ also implies there is ‘dirty’, an idea that carries a lot of guilt and shame. In this week’s episode, Brooke and Ben dig into a new duality by looking at fo... more
Whether it’s food, beauty products, or the state of our home, describing something as ‘clean’ also implies there is ‘dirty’, an idea that carries a lot of guilt and shame. In this week’s episode, Brooke and Ben dig into a new duality by looking at fo... more
Prompted by a listener question, this week’s episode is about Brooke and Ben’s relationship with alcohol and how it’s changed over the past five years. Brooke shares why she never really wanted to use the word ‘sober’ to describe herself and how heal... more
Prompted by a listener question, this week’s episode is about Brooke and Ben’s relationship with alcohol and how it’s changed over the past five years. Brooke shares why she never really wanted to use the word ‘sober’ to describe herself and how heal... more
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I only came across this podcast once it had ended. But I keep relistening to these episodes again and again. Your way of thinking resonates with me so much. I admire the emotional intelligence you both have, and how respectful you both seem to be with each other. You both seem to be so gentle, loving, and supportive of each other in your relationship which is wonderful to witness. I also have to address that I’m amazed at Ben’s emotional intelligence. I feel so bad for having to specifically po... more
Brooke,
Your thoughtful and compassionate approach to life (and living) has helped me in so many ways. I found your pod in 2017 when I was so so depressed about the state of the world. Your words helped me to see some light, helped me to find agency, and helped me to feel so much less alone in my struggle. You should feel so proud of what you’ve achieved with this body of work.
From the bottom of my heart, thank you for all these years. I wish only the best for you, Ben, and your kids.
I love this show so much I wish apple would let me follow it. If it wasn’t for Brooke’s email reminders I’d be in trouble. This is my all time favorite podcast but apple doesn’t care, every time a new show airs sure enough I look and it has been removed from shows I follow. Apple please fix this!
I love the conversations of Brook and Ben. They are so thoughtful, humorous and gentle and always leave me feeling better about my life and the world. I just wish they came out more often! Ben and Brook, thank you so much for this wonderful contribution. ❤️
Your conversations make me smile, I love tucking in with a warm cup of tea and listening to your podcasts every week. They relax and revive me and get me excited to start the day. Also, I used to live in Sydney, Australia , still call it home, I’m currently living in Vancouver, British Columbia, so your conversations also make me feel quite nostalgic as well. I aspire to do what you do for my career in the future. It’s so lovely to be that beacon of hope that you are for me and I’m sure for many... more
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A thoughtful, intimate conversation pair exploring the gray areas of life, from slow living and mindfulness to personal growth, parenting, and relationship dynamics. Episodes consistently emphasize living with intention, balancing ideals with everyday realities, and treating sobriety, perfectionism, and change as ongoing experiments rather than fixed labels. The duo's warm, unpolished banter and openness to multi-faceted topics often center on practical wisdom, self-reflection, and humane perspectives that invite listeners to rethink extremes and embrace the messy middle. A standout trait is the conversational ease that makes deep topics feel like a chat with friends, often sprinkled with humor and relatable anecdotes that companionably anc... more
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