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Rowan's Notes

The Rundown AI
AGI
Gemini Models
Google
AI Development
Artificial Intelligence
Project Astra
Llama 3.1
Open Source
Meta
AI Agents
Developer Feedback
Gemini 3
AI Companions
Apple
Math Improvements
AI Tools
Vision Capabilities
Gemini 2.0
Healthcare
Linux

Rowan's Notes is a podcast where The Rundown's founder, Rowan Cheung, interviews the people shaping the AI industry — breaking down what’s real vs hype and how to leverage it to get ahead in your life, work, and business.

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Demis Hassabis says we’re in the ‘foothills of the singularity’

In this exclusive conversation, Rowan Cheung (@rowancheung) sat down with DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis (@demishassabis) to break down:

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Google just revealed Omni, personalized cross-device intelligence, and Spark agents at I/O 2025.

In this exclusive conversation, Rowan Cheung (@rowancheung) sat down with Google CEO Sundar Pichai (@sundarpichai) to break it all down:

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Being early to SEO helped Dharmesh Shah build HubSpot into a $30B company. Now he's obsessed with something new: AI ranking.

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Google just revealed Gemini 3.0 -- its most intelligent AI model yet with SOTA reasoning and 1501 Elo on the LMArena.

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Rowan Cheung
Host of Rowan's Notes and a key figure behind The State of AI and Rundown.ai, guiding discussions with leading AI researchers and practitioners.

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Dharmesh Shah on AEO, AI Agents, and the ‘AI App Store’
Q: What are the first two to three things they should do if they want to leverage AEO?
Both to reformulate existing content with an AI mindset and create new content that aligns with high-quality AI outputs, ensuring that it can be effectively consumed by AI engines.
Dharmesh Shah on AEO, AI Agents, and the ‘AI App Store’
Q: If you were to go back in time and start HubSpot today in the AI search era, what do you think inbound would look like?
Inbound would have to adapt significantly to optimize for Answer Engine Optimization (AEO) instead of just traditional SEO, focusing on providing value in a way that AI models can interpret.
Satya Nadella on AI Agents, Rebuilding the Web, the Future of Work, and more
Q: Where do you see agents having the most value in that regard first?
He highlights healthcare as a sector ripe for productivity gains through the use of multi-agent orchestrators.
Satya Nadella on AI Agents, Rebuilding the Web, the Future of Work, and more
Q: What advice would you give to knowledge workers so that they effectively become these agent managers instead of agent replacement?
Nadella emphasizes the importance of using AI tools and skills to adapt to changing workflows, thus empowering knowledge workers to navigate technology effectively.
Demis Hassabis on Gemini 2.0, Project Astra, Agents, Gaming with Elon, and more
Q: Are these conversations continuing beyond Twitter at all?
Yes, we have a lot of fun chatting about potential collaborations in gaming and AI.

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A tech-forward interview show that brings leading AI researchers, entrepreneurs, and builders to discuss how AI is reshaping business, marketing, and daily life. Across recent episodes, conversations span practical content strategies for the AI era (like adapting from traditional SEO to new AI-centric approaches), high-profile model launches and platform updates, and the evolving relationship between humans and intelligent systems. The format blends big-picture trends with hands-on implications—covering healthcare, education, coding, product development, and the regulatory landscape—making it valuable for listeners who want both strategic insight and concrete takeaways to apply in their organizations.

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