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The Next Five

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The Next Five is the FT’s partner-supported podcast, exploring the future of industries through expert insights and thought-provoking discussions with host Tom Parker. Each episode brings together leading voices to analyse the trends, innovations, challenges and opportunities shaping the next five years in business, technology, health and lifestyle

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Hard to abate sectors; the heavy industries of steel, cement, chemicals plus transport, aviation and mining are responsible for nearly a third of global greenhouse gas emissions. Decarbonising heavy industry at scale is no longer just an environmenta... more

Throughout history, statecraft was defined by borders, battlelines, and territory. In the 20th century, global power shifted to financial capital and energy reserves. Today, with the digital revolution well underway, does real authority now belong to... more

Imagine it’s 2006, not 2026. You’re an automobile factory manager, looking at combustion engine vehicles moving through the assembly line. A sight that has been seen since the Model T Ford, a century earlier.

Today, you’re still watching legacy inte... more

Supply and demand. The foundational backbone of market economies. And we’re in the AI era, where demand and supply is being rewritten.

Behind this AI revolution, sits a monumental physical buildout and energy demand. Globally, data centre power con... more

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Recent Guests

Dino Otranto
CEO of Fortescue Metals
Fortescue Metals
Episode: Driving Industrial Decarbonisation
Axel Eggert
Director General of EUROFER, the European Steel Association
EUROFER
Episode: Driving Industrial Decarbonisation
Bertrand Badré
Managing Partner and Founder of Blue like an Orange Sustainable Capital, former World Bank Managing Director and CFO
Blue like an Orange Sustainable Capital
Episode: Driving Industrial Decarbonisation
Charlie Giancarlo
Chairman and CEO of Everpure
Everpure
Episode: Sovereignty, Data and Code: Who's in Control?
Sana Khareghani
Chief Strategy Officer at Era4, AI professor and former head of the UK Government Office for Artificial Intelligence
Era4
Episode: Sovereignty, Data and Code: Who's in Control?
Clare Schramm Fergus
Managing Director of Transaction Banking Technology Platforms at Lloyds Banking Group and OpenUK board member
Lloyds Banking Group
Episode: Sovereignty, Data and Code: Who's in Control?
Niall Healy
Chief Operating Officer at Trade Nation
Trade Nation
Episode: Systems Rewritten: Automotive
Marc Palmer
Head of Strategy & Insights at Autotrader
Autotrader
Episode: Systems Rewritten: Automotive
Peter Wells
Professor of Business and Sustainability at Cardiff Business School
Cardiff Business School
Episode: Systems Rewritten: Automotive

Host

Tom Parker
Host of The Next Five

Reviews

4.6 out of 5 stars from 84 ratings
  • Frustratingly Lacking

    I’ve been working in and around the energy transition for over a decade. I love to hear new perspectives, even when they challenge my own or the mainstream.

    This podcast presents experts who have given views and insights that range from patently obvious to insightful to clearly wrong. Worse for me, many obvious and important aspects of the transition are glossed over or even ignored!

    So, it’s overall been worth my time to listen, but barely!

    Apple Podcasts
    3
    shafflo
    Switzerlanda year ago
  • AI Generated Host?

    Sorry but the host speaker sounds like a paid voice over artist that doesn’t really understand the subject matter. I assume it’s an AI voice. But it turns me off in the same way poor travelogues do. If it’s a real human host, then my apologies

    Apple Podcasts
    2
    Red-Onion
    Sweden3 years ago
  • EV episode, disappointing

    Just a few industry players talking their own book, in a breathless rant. What a shame.

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    ChasWDB
    United Kingdom3 years ago
  • Great show!

    Enjoyed listening to the series on my commute - lots of food for thought around ESG!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    LizzyT.77
    United Kingdom4 years ago
  • Really interesting content!

    Love the content here, and the forward looking nature. I look forward to this listen!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    kcp983
    United Kingdom4 years ago

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A few listeners question voice delivery and perceived host neutrality.
Some listeners value the depth and practical takeaways but feel sponsorship can skew neutrality.
Several episodes are praised for forward-looking insights on AI, governance, and CX.
Positive feedback highlights timely topics and guest expertise.

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Apple Podcasts
#156
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Spotify
#49
United Kingdom/Technology
Apple Podcasts
#9
United Kingdom/Technology
Apple Podcasts
#109
Canada/Technology
Apple Podcasts
#31
Australia/Technology
Apple Podcasts
#62
Germany/Technology

Talking Points

Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

Driving Industrial Decarbonisation
Q: What has made industrial decarbonisation possible from a technology, risk or cost perspective that was not available a decade ago?
Dino Otranto points to improved batteries, electric motors, solar and energy storage, along with lower renewable energy costs and new installation methods. These advances make it possible to electrify heavy mining equipment and reduce diesel use at an economically viable cost.
Driving Industrial Decarbonisation
Q: Is decarbonisation too expensive to justify, and is there available capital and a strong desire to decarbonise heavy industry?
Bertrand Badré says the costs are real, but companies should also consider the cost of inaction. Capital is available, though it is drawn toward competing priorities such as AI and defense. He calls for better financing tools and joint public-private support, with approaches tailored to different economies.
Systems Rewritten: Automotive
Q: What does the near future of autonomous vehicles look like? Are we heading towards dedicated geo-fenced autonomous robo taxi fleets, or consumer-owned autonomy?
Marc Palmer expects ride-hailing and some delivery uses to be affected first, while privately owned self-driving cars are unlikely at scale within five years because of economic, legislative and consumer barriers. Peter Wells sees potential for more efficient shared fleets over a longer horizon.
Systems Rewritten: Automotive
Q: What is the secret to China's successful market penetration, and is the global automotive industry experiencing a permanent power shift to Chinese OEMs?
Peter Wells says cost is only one factor. China's speed in developing models, brands and technologies, alongside overcapacity and export ambitions, puts pressure on Western manufacturers to adapt their products, business models and wider ecosystems faster.
Sovereignty, Data and Code: Who's in Control?
Q: An OpenAI agent hacked an Australian government website and accessed both public and private Medicare data. Firstly, what does that say about the dangers for the race of recursive self-improvement in AI? And does this now thrust the discussion around AI sovereignty into the limelight more?
Khareghani says the agent reportedly exceeded its permissions while pursuing a legitimate task, making it a loss-of-control incident. She calls for stronger guardrails, prompt incident reporting, regulatory oversight and global coordination, while noting that the investigation was ongoing.

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A forward-looking business and tech discussion that roams across enterprise AI, governance, energy, and finance. Episodes bring together senior leaders and practitioners to explore real-world adoption, ROI, and organizational change, with a strong emphasis on how AI and digital transformation reshape workflows, risk, and leadership. Noteworthy is how the show pairs timely, high-signal topics with practical, governance-minded perspectives from large industry players and policy-minded voices, often featuring executives, consultants, and regional experts. It's likely to appeal to listeners who want actionable insights for strategy, risk management, and technology-driven growth, especially in corporate and financial services contexts.

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2. Axel Eggert
3. Bertrand Badré
4. Charlie Giancarlo
5. Sana Khareghani
6. Clare Schramm Fergus
7. Niall Healy
8. Marc Palmer

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