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A spirituality podcast for people who aren’t ready to give up on the world, The Leader’s Way features conversations with intellectual entrepreneurs at the intersection of leadership, spirituality, and theology.

This podcast is hosted by Executive Director of Leadership Dr. Brandon Nappi ’01 MDiv and guest hosts Misty Krasawski ’26 MDiv and Whitney Kimball Coe ’26 MDiv. It is brought to you by... more

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What do we do in seasons of destabilization and doubt, uncertainty or rupture, when we find ourselves in the proverbial spiritual "wilderness?" Sarah Bessey tells us that the site of disruption is often “an altar to encounter God, an invitation from ... more

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By his own admission, Father Laurence Freeman came into the monastic life "kicking and screaming.”

In this lively episode, host Brandon Nappi asks Fr. Freeman to share the story of his journey into the monastery, about his relationship with the incr... more

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How can the science of spirituality help us discover our true purpose in life?

Welcome back to Within, a contemplative segment of The Leader’s Way Podcast that explores the convergence of mental health, art, and spirituality through authentic conver... more

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Welcome back to the new season of The Leader’s Way, a podcast for people who aren’t ready to give up on the world.

In this episode, host Brandon Nappi talks with Volker Leppin about all things mysticism, for Meister Eckhart to Francis of Assisi to M... more

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Laurence Freeman
Benedictine monk and worldwide leader of the World Community for Christian Meditation
World Community for Christian Meditation
Episode: 83: The Light Within with Laurence Freeman
Anna Yusim
Psychiatrist, author of Fulfilled, and Yale/Yale-affiliated educator
Stanford Medicine, Yale Medical School
Episode: 82: Fulfilled with Anna Yusim
Volker Leppin
Horace Tracy Pitkin Professor of Historical Theology
University of Vienna; Yale Divinity School (as guest)
Episode: 81: All Things Mysticism with Volker Leppin
Sophfronia Scott
Novelist, essayist, leading contemplative thinker
Author of The Seeker and the Monk; scholar on Thomas Merton
Episode: 80: At the Intersection of Contemplation and Activism with Sophfronia Scott
Shabnam Mogharabi
Entertainment executive and entrepreneur; co-founder of SoulPancake
SoulPancake/Soul Boom
Episode: 79: Charging Toward the Light with Shabnam Mogharabi
Reverend Dr. John Ross
A UCC clergy person who has been involved with The Saint John's Bible and its promotion.
The Saint John's Bible
Episode: 78: Saint John's Bible with John Ross
Bishop Sean Rowe
Presiding Bishop of the Episcopal Church, expert in organizational learning and adaptive change
Episcopal Church
Episode: 77: Being Grounded in the Love of God with Sean Rowe
Nelba Márquez-Greene
Community scholar at the Yale School of Public Health and advocate for gun violence prevention
Yale University
Episode: 76: Walking with Survivors of Gun Violence with Nelba Márquez-Greene
Claire Brown
A priest, researcher, writer, and spiritual director.
Episode: 74: “Have You Met the Community?” with Claire Brown and Austin Sauerbrei

Hosts

Dr. Brandon Nappi
Executive Director of Leadership at Berkeley Divinity School; host of The Leader's Way; faculty/academic leader with focus on leadership and spirituality.
Whitney Kimball Coe
Guest host and seminarian; engages in discussions on spirituality, community, and leadership.

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4.9 out of 5 stars from 43 ratings
  • A Joy

    I am a deacon serving in the Diocese of New York. Dozens of priests and leaders in my orbit studied at Yale. That includes our new Bishop Matthew Heyd. Your interviews and observations are accessible, informative, and entertaining.

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    United Statesa year ago

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Guests are often thoughtful, well-prepared, and bring practical spirituality to leadership.
The conversations balance scholarly depth with real-world applicability for leaders and communities.
Listeners highlight accessible and informative interviews.
Showcases diverse voices at the intersection of religion, leadership, and social action.

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83: The Light Within with Laurence Freeman
Q: What is the relationship between contemplation and action, and how can contemplative practice influence public life and leadership?
Contemplation is the source of action when one acts with purity and without attachment to outcomes, supporting a form of practical ethics where ordinary people witness through daily life, contributing to a broader societal transformation.
83: The Light Within with Laurence Freeman
Q: How does Christian Meditation fit within the broader family of Christian prayer, and how should it be understood relative to other forms of prayer?
He explains that there are not hierarchical forms of prayer; rather, different spokes on a wheel converge at a central hub of stillness, with contemplation and action continually interworking through the mind of Christ at the center.
80: At the Intersection of Contemplation and Activism with Sophfronia Scott
Q: What is the role of writing as a spiritual practice in your work, and how do you encourage younger writers to engage with big topics faithfully?
She emphasizes that writing is a Holy Spirit-inspired, creative process that requires playfulness and authenticity, urging writers to share their truth openly and to trust their voice as a vehicle for witness and transformation.
80: At the Intersection of Contemplation and Activism with Sophfronia Scott
Q: How does contemplation inform your approach to race, justice, and parenting in a world of policing and fear?
She reflects on her own experiences as a Black woman and mother, sharing how contemplation helps hold multiple truths—recognizing systemic injustices while also seeking compassionate, nonviolent responses inspired by Merton and other mentors.
80: At the Intersection of Contemplation and Activism with Sophfronia Scott
Q: I'd love you to start with your Thomas Merton story and your Berkeley connection. Could you share your Merton story and how you came to write about him?
Sophfronia discusses discovering Merton through journals, the influence of his epiphany in Louisville, and how reading his early, unedited thoughts helped her see the evolution from inward contemplation to outward social engagement. She explains how personal encounters with Merton's legacy shaped her own writing and teaching, and why the bridge between contemplation and action matters today.

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A spirituality-focused series that centers conversations at the crossroads of leadership, faith, and social impact. Episodes frequently explore contemplative practice, mysticism, and how spiritual traditions inform ethical leadership, organizational change, and public life. Notable threads include deep dives into Christian mysticism, the relationship between contemplation and activism, media and spirituality, and the role of community, education, and public health in leadership contexts. The show often features scholars, clergy, journalists, and practitioners who bring rigorous thinking and personal storytelling to issues like healing from violence, inclusive faith communities, and the integration of spiritual practice with daily work. A st... more

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2. Anna Yusim
3. Volker Leppin
4. Sophfronia Scott
5. Shabnam Mogharabi
6. Reverend Dr. John Ross
7. Bishop Sean Rowe
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