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The Education Exchange

Paul E. Peterson
Education Policy
Charter Schools
School Choice
Covid-19
National Assessment Of Educational Progress
Education Savings Accounts
Covid-19 Pandemic
Teacher Unions
Homeschooling
School Vouchers
K-12 Education
Trump Administration
Learning Loss
School Boards
Federal Funding
Private Schools
ESSER Funds
Teachers Union
Chronic Absenteeism
Science Of Reading

A weekly podcast highlighting education policy news, hosted by Paul E. Peterson, Senior editor of Education Next

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Michelle Rhee, a a Venture Partner at Equal Opportunity Ventures and the former chancellor of Washington, D.C., Public Schools, joins Paul E. Peterson to discuss the future of Washington schools under presumptive mayor Janeese Lewis George.

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R. Shep Melnick, the Thomas P. O’Neill, Jr. Professor of American Politics at Boston College, joins Paul E. Peterson to discuss the Supreme Court's recent ruling, which allows states to restrict athletes’ participation in school and collegiate sports... more

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Paul Carrese, the Director of the Center for American Civics and Professor at Arizona State University, joins Paul E. Peterson to discuss Carrese's new book, Teaching America: Reflective Patriotism in Schools, College, and Culture.

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Lamar Alexander, the former United States Senator and Governor of Tennessee, joins Paul E. Peterson to discuss Alexander's new book, "The Education of a Senator: From JFK to Trump."

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Recent Guests

Michelle Rhee
Former Chancellor of the DC Public Schools, now partner at Equal Opportunity Ventures
Equal Opportunity Ventures
Episode: Ep. 452 - July 20, 2026 - Could New Mayor End D.C. Teacher Evaluation System?
Shep Melnick
Professor of Political Science at Boston College
Boston College
Episode: Ep. 451 - July 13, 2026 - Supreme Court United in Belief that Transgender Athlete Bans Do Not Violate Title IX
Paul Carrese
Professor in the School of Civic and Economic Thought and Leadership
Arizona State University
Episode: Ep. 450 - July 6, 2026 - The Role of Schools in Cultivating Patriotism
Lamar Alexander
Former Senator from Tennessee; former chair of the Senate HELP Committee
U.S. Senate (Tennessee)
Episode: Ep. 449 - June 29, 2026 - Lamar Alexander Tells Inside Story Behind Every Student Succeeds Act
Marty West
Vice Chair of the National Governing Board for NAEP; Academic Dean at the Harvard Graduate School of Education
Harvard Graduate School of Education; National Assessment of Educational Progress
Episode: Ep. 448 - June 22, 2026 - NAEP Scores Higher Among 9-Year-Olds Not Yet in School During Covid
Jacob Light
Hoover Fellow at the Hoover Institution, Stanford University
Hoover Institution, Stanford University
Episode: Ep. 447 - June 15, 2026 - Higher Ed Has Withstood Past Innovative Shocks. AI Is Hitting Different.
Michael Henderson
Professor of political science at Louisiana State University
Louisiana State University
Episode: Ep. 445 - June 1, 2026 - Growing Enrollment and Public Support for Charter Schools Can’t Break Through Partisan Divide
Patrick Wolf
Professor in the Department of School Reform
University of Arkansas
Episode: Ep. 444 - May 26, 2026 - The Ever-Stubborn, Often-Widening Achievement Gap
Benjamin Scafidi
Professor at Georgia's Kennesaw State University
Kennesaw State University
Episode: Ep. 443 - May 18, 2026 - School Districts with Declining Enrollments Have Higher Funding, More Staff Per Pupil

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Paul Peterson
Host of The Education Exchange

Reviews

4.7 out of 5 stars from 36 ratings
  • Episode 342

    The first problematic episode.

    No conversation about parenting & family life. Solutions for children begins with and must be centered on parents & family.

    Equality should be the goal not equity.

    Capitalism has been the driver to lift people around the world out of poverty.

    The best way to help children is regain a focus and value on core academic curriculum (think reading, history & arithmetic).

    SEL is a distraction & diversion whose increase in schools & after school government funded pr... more

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    Nesorneb
    United States2 years ago
  • Just came across.

    Just came across this podcast. I think it’s pretty interesting thank you.

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    jaiden.cjones
    Canada5 years ago

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Listeners appreciate data-driven policy discussions and the way complex studies are translated for practitioners.
Overall, the show is seen as a credible, evidence-based resource for education policy and reform debates.
A negative reviewer notes a perceived imbalance in addressing parenting and family life in one episode, suggesting room for broader perspectives on child development in policy talks.

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Ep. 450 - July 6, 2026 - The Role of Schools in Cultivating Patriotism
Q: How should civics education be structured in K-12 and higher education to foster this reflective patriotism?
Education should mix history, constitutional principles, and civic debates, starting with primary sources, including both celebrated and challenging figures, and gradually introducing complex ideas and debates so students understand both the ideals and the realities of America's constitutional republic.
Ep. 450 - July 6, 2026 - The Role of Schools in Cultivating Patriotism
Q: Paul, perhaps the key word in the title of your book is reflective. Well, what do you mean by reflective patriotism?
Reflective patriotism is a blend of love of country with a rational, moral examination of how civic institutions work, rooted in the founders' emphasis on self-government and equal rights, encouraging citizens to engage, debate, and improve the nation rather than accept uncritical allegiance.
Ep. 449 - June 29, 2026 - Lamar Alexander Tells Inside Story Behind Every Student Succeeds Act
Q: What lessons emerged from your experience working with presidents from different parties to advance education reform?
The essential lesson is that governance requires listening, flexibility, and strong relationships. Howard Baker demonstrated how bipartisanship can function when amendments are allowed and when leaders prioritize outcomes over rigid ideology. Building personal relationships across the aisle helps in delivering enduring policies.
Ep. 449 - June 29, 2026 - Lamar Alexander Tells Inside Story Behind Every Student Succeeds Act
Q: What was the thinking behind expanding preschool funding as part of the ESSA package, and how do you view its role today?
Preschool funding was a compromise with colleagues who valued early education; I viewed preschool as primarily a state and community responsibility, but providing targeted federal funding helped secure the broader package. The Vanderbilt and Head Start studies show mixed long-term benefits, so the challenge is scaling high-quality programs without losing effectiveness.
Ep. 449 - June 29, 2026 - Lamar Alexander Tells Inside Story Behind Every Student Succeeds Act
Q: Why did you choose to keep the 17 federally required tests under ESSA, and what did you weigh in that decision?
My initial instinct was to devolve authority, but President Bush persuaded me that keeping the tests allowed the law to happen and provided a way to tell whether children were learning and to keep schools accountable. It was a strategic compromise to get a durable reform rather than a perfect arrangement.

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2. Shep Melnick
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4. Lamar Alexander
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6. Jacob Light
7. Michael Henderson
8. Patrick Wolf

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