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The Business Case - with Mark Wharrier and Phil Clark

In partnership with Engage Investor
Eurocell
Zoopla
UK Housing Market
Tritax Big Box REIT
Newriver
Chesnara Plc
London Metric
Sky
UK Economy
Artificial Intelligence
UK Logistics
Cohort PLC
Retail Real Estate
Brexit
Westminster / Government
London Stock Exchange
Regulation / Policy
Data Centers
Defence Industry

Conversations with inspiring business leaders in the UK. Presented by Mark Wharrier and Phil Clark, two experienced financial markets professionals who have spent decades investing in UK companies.

In each episode, we interview a founder or CEO of a UK business that has excelled in their role. We discuss the high's and low's, the lessons learned and stories behind the leader.

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Join hosts Mark Wharrier and Phil Clark for an engaging conversation with Helen Gordon, Chief Executive Officer of Grainger plc. In this episode, Helen discusses Grainger’s position as the UK’s largest listed residential landlord, specialising in the... more

Join hosts Mark Wharrier and Phil Clark for an engaging conversation with Alk Brand, Chief Executive Officer of Wynnstay Group plc. In this episode, Alk discusses Wynnstay’s role as a leading supplier to the UK agricultural sector, supporting farmers... more

Join hosts Mark Wharrier and Phil Clark for an engaging conversation with Steve Murray, Group Chief Executive Officer of Chesnara plc. In this episode, Steve discusses Chesnara’s evolution into a leading European life, pensions and investment company... more

Join hosts Mark Wharrier and Phil Clark for an insightful conversation with Andrew (Andy) Thomis, Chief Executive of Cohort. In this episode, Andy reflects on the journey of co-founding Cohort and growing it into a leading defence and security techno... more

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Steve Murray
CEO of Chesnara plc
Chesnara plc
Episode: S2 - Episode 5: The Business Case: Interview with Steve Murray, CEO of Chesnara plc
Andy Thomis
Founder and Chief Executive, Cohort PLC
Cohort PLC
Episode: S2 - Episode 4: The Business Case: Interview with Andy Thomis, Chief Executive of Cohort PLC
Allan Lockhart
CEO of NewRiver
NewRiver
Episode: The Business Case: Interview with Allan Lockhart, CEO of NewRiver
Colin Godfrey
Chief Executive of Tritax Big Box REIT
Tritax Big Box REIT
Episode: The Business Case: Unlocking the £8 Billion Logistics Powerhouse, interview with CEO of Tritax Big Box, Colin Godfrey
Paul Whitehead
CEO, Zoopla
Zoopla
Episode: The Business Case interview with Paul Whitehead, CEO of Zoopla
Andrew Griffith
Shadow Secretary of State for Business and Trade; former Sky Finance Director and COO
UK Parliament; Sky
Episode: The Business Case interview with Andrew Griffith MP
Andrew Jones
Chief executive of London Metric
London Metric
Episode: The Business Case interview with Andrew Jones, CEO of London Metric
Darren Waters
Chief Executive Officer
Eurocell
Episode: The Business Case interview with Darren Waters, CEO of Eurocell

Hosts

Mark Wharrier
Host of The Business Case; experienced financial markets professional with a focus on UK companies.
Phil Clark
Co-host of The Business Case; veteran in financial markets and UK business coverage.

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 39 ratings
  • Brilliant Series

    The guests are all really interesting leaders. Great to hear how they got started and how they have dealt with people and problems along the way. Very diverse approaches to business and life success. Good explanations of how industries work and why businesses fail. Some really useful snippets that I would like to apply to my own life!

    Apple Podcasts
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    Nick Laing
    United Kingdoma year ago
  • Success tips from top leaders

    Great insights and tips for leadership, strategy and what makes businesses thrive.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Cynthia.chan
    United Kingdoma year ago
  • A promising podcast

    An exceptionally good listen. Excited to see what’s coming in the future. I thought the pacing of the episode was amazing with great facts and insight into the business world. Would recommend to everyone.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Zach_clark
    United Kingdom2 years ago

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Great, actionable leadership tips and real-world strategy insights.
Shows consistently pull in top UK business leaders, with practical leadership lessons.
Pacing and depth are impressive, making complex topics accessible for professionals.

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The Business Case: Interview with Allan Lockhart, CEO of NewRiver
Q: Could you give us a quick snapshot of NewRiver?
NewRiver is a UK-focused retail real estate REIT specialising in shopping centres and retail parks, with ~2.5 billion in assets under management, about 3,500 tenants, and a strategy centered on active asset management, data-driven decision making, and delivering sustainable income growth for shareholders.
S2 - Episode 5: The Business Case: Interview with Steve Murray, CEO of Chesnara plc
Q: How does Chesnara view new business amid its consolidation focus?
Chesnara is open to writing new business where returns on capital are strong, but expects growth primarily through acquisitions rather than rapidly expanding new business in isolation; they seek a balance between consolidation and selective new product lines that meet ROI targets.
S2 - Episode 5: The Business Case: Interview with Steve Murray, CEO of Chesnara plc
Q: What is the core strategic logic behind being a consolidator?
The strategy hinges on acquiring books of business at discounts to book value, integrating them on scalable platforms, improving efficiency, and generating returns through capital management and investment strategies that exceed risk-free rates over time.
S2 - Episode 5: The Business Case: Interview with Steve Murray, CEO of Chesnara plc
Q: What does Chesnara do today and what are the core ingredients behind its success?
Chesnara consolidates life insurance books across the UK, Sweden, and the Netherlands, acquiring portfolios, integrating them efficiently, and delivering dividends to shareholders. The business emphasises disciplined capital allocation, cost efficiencies, and the ability to replatform and generate synergies across platforms.
The Business Case: Unlocking the £8 Billion Logistics Powerhouse, interview with CEO of Tritax Big Box, Colin Godfrey
Q: What drives your growth outlook for rent growth and development?
Rent reversion, new development, and data centers are the three core levers, with strong embedded rent reviews and a disciplined, low-risk approach to development that preserves leverage for future opportunities.

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Frequently Asked Questions About The Business Case

What is The Business Case about and what kind of topics does it cover?

A financially savvy, UK-focused show that interviews founders and CEOs about scaling, strategy, and the realities of running UK businesses. Episodes frequently center on business models, capital allocation, market dynamics, and how leaders navigate cycles, technology adoption (including AI), and regulatory environments. The format blends macro context from veteran hosts with hands-on lessons from executives, offering practical takeaways for listeners such as operators, investors, and professionals in growth roles. A standout trait is the duo's emphasis on long-term value, ROI for partners, and real-world leadership stories, making it useful for listeners seeking actionable insights and industry context.

Noteworthy is the consistent emphasi... more

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4. Colin Godfrey
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