
Best-selling authors and long-time buddies Shane Snow and Joe Lazer explore how to win by zagging when everyone else is zigging—in business and in life. Learn breakthrough strategies for building trust, telling better stories, and winning the AI Age from the world's most innovative founders, authors, and icons. Have an idea for a guest? Email guest@joelazer.com. storytellingedge.substack.com
| Publishes | Weekly | Episodes | 11 | Founded | 3 months ago |
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| Number of Listeners | Categories | EntrepreneurshipBusinessTechnology | |||

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Two longtime friends and co-hosts explore how to win by zagging when others zig, with a focus on storytelling, trust-building, and leadership in the AI age. Episodes sketch practical angles on making human-centric narratives, interpreting AI systems, and navigating media evolution—ranging from authorial stories behind successful brands to pragmatic discussions on platform models, subscriptions, and responsible AI use. The conversation often weaves in real-world anecdotes, industry trends, and strategic prompts for marketers, founders, and executives to leverage storytelling as a core differentiator in tech-driven markets. A standout throughline is that human storytelling remains a valuable, transferable skill even as AI augments technical w... more
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