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Taxes touch every aspect of society, including who rules, where factories are built, what people drink, what car they buy, when they have children, and when they die. Scott Dyreng (Duke) and Jeff Hoopes (UNC), two accounting professors, chat about taxes, including current events, with the energy of an over-caffeinated chihuahua. Listening is guaranteed to be far more entertaining than actually pay... more

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Jeff and Scott talk about wasteful tax expenditures with Calvin Johnson, which Professor Johnson believes includes basically all tax expenditures.

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Jeff and Scott chat with Brian Galle about his new paper, How to Tax the Ultrarich.Ā  Most proposals that seek to tax the very wealthy differently eliminate the principle of realization, such as wealth taxes or mark-to-market regimes... more

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Ā Jeff and Scott speak with Charles Crain, Managing Vice President of Policy at the National Association of Manufacturers (NAM). Charles works closely with NAM’s member companies to advocate for tax policies that support manufacturer... more

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Jeff and Scott chat with Ben Jaros, a research fellow at the Hoover Institution, about his paper, ā€œTobacco Tariffs in the Colonial Chesapeake.ā€ Ben explains how tobacco tariffs shaped the finances of colonial Maryland and Virginia, ... more

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Charles Crain
Managing Vice President of Policy at the National Association of Manufacturers (NAM)
National Association of Manufacturers
Episode: Lobbying for the National Association of Manufacturers: A Chat with Charles Crain
Ben Jaros
Research fellow at Stanford University's Hoover Institution
Hoover Institution
Episode: Benjamin Jaros on Colonial Tobacco Tariffs
Danny Werfel
Former IRS commissioner
Former IRS Commissioner
Episode: Former IRS Commissioner Danny Werfel on the IRS
Tyler Menzer
Assistant professor at TCU
Texas Christian University
Episode: Inconsistency In Crypto Tax Compliance Providers: A Chat with Tyler Menzer
Michael Kaercher
Deputy Director of the Tax Law Center
New York University Law
Episode: What is "The Tax Law": A Chat with Michael Kaercher
Conor Clarke
Associate Professor of Law at Washington University in St. Louis; former DOJ/OLC attorney
Washington University in St. Louis
Episode: The Supreme Court and Tariffs: A Chat with Conor Clarke
Joe Thorndike
Writer and political historian, specialized in tax history
Tax Notes magazine
Episode: How the US Weaned Itself off Tariffs: A chat with Joe Thorndike
Jason DeBacker
Associate Professor of Economics, Darla Moore School of Business, University of South Carolina; President of PSL Foundation
University of South Carolina; Policy Simulation Library (PSL)
Episode: What can we learn from 25 Years of Tax History? A Chat with Jason DeBacker
David Mitchell
Senior Fellow for Tax and Regulatory Policy
Washington Center for Equitable Growth
Episode: A Chat about the Small Business Stock Exclusion with David Mitchell

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Scott Dyreng
Professor of Accounting at Duke University; Host of Tax Chats; frequently discusses tax policy, academia, and policy impacts with a data-driven, empirical lens.
Jeff Hoopes
Co-host of Tax Chats; Professor of Accounting and Tax at UNC; often brings a practical perspective from UNC and public policy to tax discussions.

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 73 ratings
  • Love this podcast!

    Tax chat šŸ˜€

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    Deb-Ya
    France4 years ago
  • Interesting but one big issue

    This is a lot of fun to listen to, however, Mr Hoops is difficult to hear. I really want to hear his thoughts but he tends to stop enunciating at the end of his sentences and crams in a bunch of words that are unintelligible. Please help him with a better mic or some feedback to speak more clearly and loudly. Thank you.

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    AlmaLRRun
    United States4 years ago
  • Roth vs. Traditional 401k

    This episode mentioned that if the tax rates are the same at the time of contribution vs. the time of withdrawal - the variance between Roth and traditional is 0. This is true for your contributions but this doesn’t take into account that your earnings are tax free in Roth 401k if they are a qualified distribution (likely the majority are qualified).

    On the traditional side - earnings will be taxable.

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    acgotti
    United States4 years ago
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    Kiangjshfjfhdhd
    United States4 years ago
  • Only one thing could make it better

    Great podcast, just the right amount of content each episode to make you more informed without overloading on taxes. The only thing that could make this podcast better is if there was merch we could purchase. The tax chats logo would look great on a baseball cap.

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    SandlesTodayPlease
    United States4 years ago

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Insightful historical and policy context that translates to current debates.
High-quality guests and rigorous discussions, though audio quality can vary.
Thoughtful, accessible deep dives into tax policy with engaging hosts.

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Lobbying for the National Association of Manufacturers: A Chat with Charles Crain
Q: What happened with CAMTI and the discussion around book income versus depreciation?
NAM opposed the CAMTI approach because it undermined depreciation benefits crucial for capital-intensive manufacturing; they worked to preserve expensing and depreciation provisions and to ensure any replacement tax regime reflected real-world capital purchases, ultimately influencing the 2025 framework.
Lobbying for the National Association of Manufacturers: A Chat with Charles Crain
Q: How did NAM decide which provisions to defend or push for in OB3/HR1, and how do you handle trade-offs between different provisions?
NAM focuses on aggregate economic impacts across the ten identified pro-manufacturing provisions rather than pitting one against another; they recognize that some provisions benefit different sized businesses differently, so they advocate for a broad, competitive tax code that supports investment and job creation across the sector.
Lobbying for the National Association of Manufacturers: A Chat with Charles Crain
Q: What is the NAM's role and how do you engage with policymakers on a day-to-day basis?
NAM represents a wide range of manufacturers, from Fortune 100s to small family-owned firms, and uses a combination of data-driven analysis, constituent stories, and direct Capitol Hill engagement—roundtables, site visits, and testimony—to explain how tax policy affects manufacturing decisions and jobs.
Benjamin Jaros on Colonial Tobacco Tariffs
Q: How did the tobacco tariff affect price and volume, and what elasticity did you expect to find?
Given tobacco's addictive nature and its central role in colonial economies, I expected inelastic demand where price increases would not drastically reduce quantity, though data constraints make precise estimation challenging.
Benjamin Jaros on Colonial Tobacco Tariffs
Q: Tell us what was special about tobacco and why the tariff focus is important.
Tobacco was the colony's cash crop and the primary commodity around which taxation and commerce revolved; tariffs on tobacco exports became a major revenue source for the Crown, shaping incentives and trade routes for decades.

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A policy-and-tin-tax conversations show where hosts pull from academia, government, think tanks, and industry to dissect current tax debates, policy design, and how tax systems shape everyday life. Episodes skew toward explaining how tax law evolves, the economics of policy changes, and the reliability of tax software and data in a rapidly changing landscape. Notable moments often involve live demonstrations of policy tools, historical context for modern debates, and practical takeaways for practitioners, researchers, and policymakers. The show stands out for blending rigorous analysis with accessible storytelling, drawing on guests who are leading scholars, former government officials, and policy advocates to illuminate how taxation touche... more

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