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Hosted by Leonie Haimson (Class Size Matters), Dr. Kaliris Salas-Ramirez and Daniel Alicea (Educators of NYC)

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In this episode, we take a hard look at the financial strategies shaping New York City’s future—and what they could mean for workers and retirees. From pension re-amortization proposals and potential borrowing through pension obligation bonds, to the... more

Politico: Mamdani allies urge him to issue moratorium on AI in schools, classsizematters.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/Politico.-Mamdani-allies-urge-him-to-issue-moratorium-on-AI-in-schools-4.17.26.pdf

NY Daily News, NYC parents tell Mayor ... more

Class Size Matters' testimony on the DOE's preliminary budget for FY 2027, classsizematters.org/testimony-on-the-doe-preliminary-education-budget-for-fy-2027/

Class Size Working Group final report, drive.google.com/file/d/1gSiFUcuLOj... more

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Recent Guests

Dorani Henderson
Parent of a Center School student; Center School alum and former District 4 charter teacher
Center School
Episode: A CONVERSATION WITH DISTRICT 3 PARENTS: CHALLENGING NYCPS UTILIZATION PROPOSALS
Tiffany Rodriguez-Noel
Parent, advocate; active in CAS and MSC communities
Center School / Community Action School networks
Episode: A CONVERSATION WITH DISTRICT 3 PARENTS: CHALLENGING NYCPS UTILIZATION PROPOSALS
Nikki Holtzman
Parent of a CAS student; SLT member
Community Action School
Episode: A CONVERSATION WITH DISTRICT 3 PARENTS: CHALLENGING NYCPS UTILIZATION PROPOSALS
David Kazansky
Educator, union advocate and former TRS trustee
New York City Teachers Retirement System (TRS)
Episode: A Conversation with David Kazansky - Educator, Unionist, Three-Term NYC TRS Trustee
John Liu
New York State Senator; Chair of the State Senate Committee on NYC Schools
New York State Senate
Episode: Interview with Sen. Liu plus testimony from parents & advocates on Mayoral control
Rebecca Winthrop
Senior Fellow and Director at the Center for Universal Education
Brookings Institution
Episode: The risks of using AI in the classroom
Natasha Capers
Former director of the Coalition for Educational Justice; former co-director of the Partnership for the Future of Learning
Coalition for Educational Justice; Partnership for the Future of Learning
Episode: Do the priorites of NYC Chancellor Samuels represent a new vision for our public schools?
Matt Gonzalez
Educator, organizer, policy advocate with experience in School Diversity and district-level implementation
New York City public schools; Arts and Letters 305 United; School Diversity initiatives
Episode: Do the priorites of NYC Chancellor Samuels represent a new vision for our public schools?
Naya Berg
Executive Director of New York Appleseed
New York Appleseed
Episode: Do the priorites of NYC Chancellor Samuels represent a new vision for our public schools?

Hosts

Leonie Haimson
Host of Talk Out of School and an advocate for educational equity, focusing on public school education and policy.
Daniel Alicea
Co-host of Talk Out of School and actively engaged in educational discussions and advocacy in NYC.

Reviews

4.0 out of 5 stars from 24 ratings
  • Podcasting about mediocrity, by failures

    Do you like hearing people listing their endless pronouns and rambling about a system in which they have no skin in the game?

    Childless activists, union reps and other pathetic characters all posturing as public school parents tell you all about segregation in schools where they don’t send their children. The guest list is a parade of underachievers, and the hosts are a private school hypocrite, a union shill who hasn’t set foot in a classroom in decades, and a racist failed assistant professo... more

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    NYCPS realparent
    United States3 months ago
  • Podcasting about mediocrity, by failures

    Do you like hearing people listing their endless pronouns and rambling about a system in which they have no skin in the game?

    Childless activists, union reps and other pathetic characters all posturing as public school parents tell you all about segregation in schools where they don’t send their children. The guest list is a parade of underachievers, and the hosts are a decrepit private school grandma, a union shill who hasn’t set foot in a classroom in decades, and a racist failed assistant p... more

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    1
    NYCPS realparent
    United States3 months ago
  • A must listen!

    Commercial free, locally controlled and totally relevant to the on the ground reality of schools.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    aharidop
    United States4 years ago
  • This is a great informative podcast

    For anyone interested in public education issues in NYC, or nationally, this is a must-listen. Every week there are engaging discussions and the co-hosts really know how to ask the right questions of their guests.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    lhaimson
    United States5 years ago
  • Voices for public education

    Leonie and Carol are lifelong advocates for public school children, and their incisive and data-driven arguments for the public good make for great podcast material!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    JWDetroit
    United States6 years ago

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The hosts' advocacy for public education is well-regarded, aligning with the interests of the audience.
Engaging discussions and knowledgeable co-hosts are frequently highlighted.
Listeners appreciate the commercial-free format and local focus on education issues.

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Controversial bills to restrict protests around schools and churches.
Q: What should listeners do if they oppose the bills?
Listeners are encouraged to contact their city council members, thank those who haven't signed on, and urge those who have signed on to withdraw support; AQE will release a tool to help people locate and contact their representatives.
Controversial bills to restrict protests around schools and churches.
Q: What is AQE's position on the buffer zone bills around schools and churches?
AQE is strongly opposed to both bills, arguing they would limit free speech and criminalize vulnerable student populations, particularly Black and Brown students and immigrant families, by expanding police discretion without transparent safeguards.
NYC teachers speak out on AI in the classroom
Q: What are the main concerns you have about AI in education?
Concerns focus on student privacy, data use without parental consent, environmental impacts of data centers, potential erosion of teacher authority, and the need for thoughtful governance and transparency before expanding AI use in classrooms.
NYC teachers speak out on AI in the classroom
Q: First, could each of you introduce yourselves and tell us what grade and subject you teach?
The teachers share their roles, tenure, and subjects: pre-K to fourth grade science, elementary education, and classroom leadership in NYC public schools, establishing their firsthand stake in AI use.
The risks of using AI in the classroom
Q: Given the potential risks and harms, should schools stop using AI until guardrails are enacted, or is there a controlled path forward?
The interviewees suggested a cautious approach: go slow to go fast, test and study AI applications with strong privacy safeguards, pedagogy, and training before scaling district-wide, and pursue readiness efforts through coalitions like CSN to prepare districts for responsible integration.

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2. Tiffany Rodriguez-Noel
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