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So you want to be a leader... Really? By Defy Expectations

Defy Expectations Ltd
Leadership
Self-Awareness
Emotional Intelligence
Personal Branding
Nervous System Regulation
Artificial Intelligence
Burnout
Diversity and Inclusion
Consistency
Bid and Proposal Management
Pearson
Digital Transformation
Ethical Persuasion
Resilience
Coaching
High Performance
Culture
Rest
Neuroscience
Adversity

We’re here to explore the highs and lows of leadership today with our guests and help you navigate the complexity of being a leader. From every aspect, from the sublime to the ridiculous and everything in between. With weekly guests from all levels of the organisation.

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Latest Episodes

In this episode, Helen speaks to Jim Bouchard, to discuss the importance of human-centric leadership. Jim shares his journey from addiction recovery through martial arts to becoming a leadership expert, emphasising the need for leaders to inspire, em... more

Helen explores the intricacies of leadership with Dave Schoof, who focuses on blending business results with consciousness expansion. They discuss the importance of unlocking innate genius, the balance between execution and influence, and the transit... more

What if resilience isn’t about pushing through, but about how quickly we can return to balance under pressure?

In this solo episode, Helen shares insights from her recent research into resilience, nervous system regulation, and what it really takes ... more

In this episode, Helen meets Patrick van der Burght, an expert in ethical persuasion. They discuss the science of human decision-making and its application in leadership, with Patrick sharing the key principles of persuasion, emphasising their ethica... more

In this episode, Helen meets Paul Petera, a veteran in leadership and culture. They discuss the significance of self-awareness, the evolution of leadership roles, and practical tools for building successful organisations, highlighted by insights from... more

In this episode, Helen delves into the highs and lows of leadership with Gerrit-Jan Van Velze, an executive coach with a rich background in professional rugby. They discuss the importance of emotional intelligence, self-awareness, and feedback in bot... more

Helen is joined by Ben Brearley, who shares his journey from corporate roles to leadership coaching, discussing the importance of self-awareness and self-acceptance in effective leadership, 'accidental leadership,' and how to adapt one's style authen... more

In this episode, former Pearson CEO John Fallon joins Helen to unpack what 'digital-first' really takes: Why customers set the pace, how incumbents reinvent, and the enduring value leaders must protect as models shift. From AI vs. dot-com déjà vu to ... more

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Recent Guests

Patrick van der Burght
Educator and expert on ethical persuasion
Episode: Ethical persuasion and the power of human decision-making with Patrick van der Burght
Paul Petera
Leadership and culture expert with 30+ years in financial services
Paul Petera (Author of Built On Purpose)
Episode: Understand and lead yourself with Paul Petera
Gerrit-Jan Van Velze
Former rugby player, executive coach
Self-employed / executive coaching
Episode: Leadership through emotional intelligence with Gerrit-Jan Van Velze
Ben Brearley
Leadership coach focusing on self-awareness and self-acceptance
Episode: Self-awareness as a leadership superpower with Ben Brearley
John Fallon
Former CEO of Pearson, co-author of Resurgent
Pearson
Episode: Thriving in an age of digital transformation with John Fallon
Mark McBride-Wright
Founder of Equal Engineers, advocate for inclusive leadership
Equal Engineers
Episode: Engaging the majority with Mark McBride-Wright
Debbie Plager
Founder/Coach empowering leaders to realize full potential and drive change
Defy Expectations
Episode: Driving Impactful Change with Debbie Plager
Sean P Shannon
Sales leader and expert in building winning sales teams
Unspecified (guest)
Episode: Building Winning Sales Teams with Sean P Shannon
Matt Light
Guest who works in Bid and Proposal Management; APMP UK Leader
APMP, Leadership Academy alumnus
Episode: Leading Beyond the Bid with Matt Light

Hosts

Helen Honisett
Host of the show; appears across multiple episodes with Defy Expectations, often focusing on leadership development and coaching.
Helen Honeyset
Co-host and show contributor with a focus on leadership insights, visibility, and practical frameworks.

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 14 ratings
  • Podcasting excellence in action!

    What to expect from a conversation led by two industry professionals? Depth, wisdom, high-profile advice, and... a delightful conversation. Helen and Vicky turn every educational conversation effortless to listen to, enjoy, and remember.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    StasiaLilac
    United Kingdom2 years ago
  • What to expect from a conversation led by two industry professionals? Depth, wisdom, high-profile advice, and... a delightful conversation. Helen and Vicky turn every educational conversation effortless to listen to, enjoy, and remember. Podcasting excellence in action!

    Podchaser
    5
    Erin Andrea Craske
    2 years ago
  • Great and concise discussion!

    It was lovely to speak with Helen and Vicky about how to engage people’s hearts when communicating.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Ulrike Seminati
    France3 years ago
  • Deep commitment to providing high value

    Helen and Vicky are truly committed to providing high value to their listeners. Co-creating an inspiring episode with them was a great experience, and listening to the episodes in this podcast is surely a great use of any leader's time.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    TransformDance
    United States3 years ago
  • Excellent podcast

    This is a boundary-pushing business podcast with insightful hosts, excellent questions and serious tips for business owners. Yet it doesn’t feel like it is taking itself too seriously. Love it! Must listen.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Stardust 12345
    United States3 years ago
  • Big hearted wisdom for leaders

    Helen and Vicky are wonderful hosts, finding both simple and subtle wisdom and advice for leaders of all ages. A genuinely enjoyable and informative listen.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    YesYouNow
    United Kingdom4 years ago
  • Fantastic Show!

    Vicky and Helen are brilliant at sharing powerful insights in simple and inspiring ways!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Kristime11
    United States4 years ago

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Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

Break the rules and go for greatness with Charles Spinosa
Q: Do you have a pearl of defiant wisdom for young people thinking about leadership?
Recognize your interactions with people and identify occasions where you can break the rules to pursue something greater. Leadership is about making small moral risks early on, fighting the conspiracy of mediocrity, and choosing moments to act in ways that lead to a richer, more meaningful leadership journey.
Break the rules and go for greatness with Charles Spinosa
Q: What is deeply wrong with most organizations or industries, and how do you address that with leaders?
Leaders often recognize systemic issues like loyalty programs that neglect long-time customers or misaligned incentives; the work is to uncover what they would love to change and then take calculated risks to install a new norm, balancing duty to stakeholders with a genuine moral purpose.
Break the rules and go for greatness with Charles Spinosa
Q: Tell us how you became so passionate about what you do and what sets you apart from other experts in the industry?
My path merged humanities with business; I moved from Shakespeare and philosophy to applying those insights to leadership. The defining passion of leaders, often shaped by their Stanford experiences or similar turning points, becomes the driver of strategy and resilience, and I help leaders articulate and enact that passion rather than simply following generic frameworks.
Building your emotional intelligence with love with Alicia Farricielli
Q: What should leaders focus on when hiring to cultivate emotionally intelligent teams?
Leaders should articulate clear expectations, environment, mutual respect, and live core values rather than relying solely on resumes or technical skills.
Building your emotional intelligence with love with Alicia Farricielli
Q: How does nervous-system regulation translate into everyday workplace communication, especially during difficult conversations?
A calm nervous system allows leaders to speak with grace and love, reducing fight-or-flight responses and enabling clearer, more compassionate messages during tough discussions.

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The show centers on practical leadership wisdom from a diverse roster of guests, blending research-backed strategies with real-world coaching notes. Episodes frequently explore self-awareness, emotional intelligence, ethical persuasion, digital transformation, DEI, and building resilient teams under pressure. Listeners can expect actionable frameworks, stories from executives and coaches, and clear takeaways for improving leadership visibility, culture, and performance. A standout thread is turning complex leadership concepts into repeatable habits and systems, rather than one-off advice. The conversational tone and mix of academics, practitioners, and industry leaders make it approachable for current and aspiring leaders across sectors, wi... more

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1. Patrick van der Burght
2. Paul Petera
3. Gerrit-Jan Van Velze
4. Ben Brearley
5. John Fallon
6. Mark McBride-Wright
7. Debbie Plager
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