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Second in Command: The Chief Behind the Chief with Cameron Herold

Second in Command with Cameron Herold
Leadership
COO Alliance
Company Culture
Entrepreneurship
Leadership Development
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Artificial Intelligence
COO
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Hiring Practices
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Team Dynamics
Franchising
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Covid-19
Leadership Training
Attention Deficit Disorder
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Customer Experience

Welcome to the “Second in Command” Podcast hosted by Cameron Herold, brought to you by the COO Alliance, where top-level COOs share their insights, tactics, and strategies that made them the Chief Behind the Chief. Cameron Herold founded the COO Alliance with one simple goal in mind: to provide COOs with the same professional development and growth opportunities CEOs have enjoyed for many years. C... more

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Hosts

Cameron Herold
Host of The Second in Command Podcast; founder of the COO Alliance; renowned for operational leadership insights and founder-ceo collaboration.
Lindsay Smith
Co-host with deep experience in COO leadership and culture transformation.
Sivana Brewer
Co-host introducing guests and guiding interview; operations-focused strategist.

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 331 ratings
  • I listen every morning

    This is my new way to start the day! I make sure to bring my headphones to the gym just to listen to this podcast. I've even started following some of the people that have been on this podcast. Super useful information and great energy!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Brent John8
    United States2 years ago
  • Great podcast!

    I look forward to each podcast and am always inspired. Cameron Herold is a great Communicator, leader and puts heart and soul in each podcast!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Tonyc6205
    United States2 years ago
  • Listen now!

    The best, simply the best. Cameron Herold knows what he's talking about and his passion shows!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Rok986
    United States2 years ago
  • New listener

    can't get enough. I have listened to you before many times.. but never thought to look for a podcast. duh.. thanks for all your work making a podcast worth listening too!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Smith Fawkes
    United States2 years ago
  • Great podcast!

    I love these podcasts! Very informative and motivating. I personally love listening to them on my runs!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Johnson734
    United States2 years ago

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Ep. 593 - Cowboy Space Corporation COO & CLO Joe Yaffe - The Leadership Secrets Powering a $2B Space Revolution
Q: What has Joe learned from fundraising rounds and working with high-profile founders?
Leverage strong outside counsel, maintain disciplined processes, and rely on relationships and practical execution rather than aiming for 'easy buttons' to close complex deals.
Ep. 593 - Cowboy Space Corporation COO & CLO Joe Yaffe - The Leadership Secrets Powering a $2B Space Revolution
Q: What does Cowboy Space Corporation actually do, and how are data centers in space powered and connected to Earth?
The company is building orbital data centers that act as the second stage of a rocket, powered by onboard solar with data transmission back to Earth via optical lasers, enabling power and data to flow from space to ground.
Ep. 595 - Rythmia CMO Dr. Jeff McNairy – How to Lead a Visionary Founder Without Choking the Dragon
Q: What advice would you give your 21-year-old self about leadership and entrepreneurship?
Enjoy the present moment and value the learning it provides, while keeping a long-term plan in mind. Leadership is about balancing vision with being present, and recognizing that growth comes from embracing each step of the journey rather than rushing to the next milestone.
Ep. 595 - Rythmia CMO Dr. Jeff McNairy – How to Lead a Visionary Founder Without Choking the Dragon
Q: What was the genesis of Rhythmia and how did you meet the founder?
The project emerged from a collaboration with Jerry Powell, a rehab patient who turned his life around after plant medicine. Our long process of getting medical licensing in Costa Rica, along with Jerry's transformation, convinced us to build a facility that could safely deliver psychedelic-assisted therapy with professional oversight and community support.
Ep. 595 - Rythmia CMO Dr. Jeff McNairy – How to Lead a Visionary Founder Without Choking the Dragon
Q: Can you describe what Rhythmia is and how it works?
Rhythmia is a luxury Ayahuasca retreat that combines a medically licensed facility with a structured seven-day program called the Rhythmia Way. Guests undergo medical clearance, have access to on-site medical staff, and participate in scheduled ayahuasca ceremonies guided by shamanic and clinical teams to address underlying emotional issues in a safe, supervised environment.

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[1] A leadership-focused show featuring COOs and operations leaders who drive growth, scale, culture, and operational excellence in fast-moving organizations. Episodes spotlight practical frameworks for hiring, delegation, cross-border teamwork, AI enablement, and staying mission-driven while expanding into new markets. Notable throughlines include balancing founder relationships with CEO partners, building scalable systems, and keeping humans at the center of high-velocity operations. The format often blends personal origin stories with actionable tactics, making it useful for current and aspiring COOs, ops leaders, and founders aiming to scale responsibly.

[2] A standout angle is the emphasis on culture-first leadership, hands-on operati... more

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