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The Digital Patient

SeamlessMD
AI In Healthcare
Patient Engagement
Artificial Intelligence
Digital Health
Ambient AI
Electronic Health Records
Seamlessmd
AI Scribes
Artificial Intelligence In Healthcare
Healthcare Technology
Digital Transformation
Clinical Decision Support
Patient Care
Health Systems Partnerships
Healthcare Informatics
Healthcare Innovation
EHR
Startup Landscape
Technology In Healthcare
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Stories from the frontline of Digital Patient Engagement

PublishesTwice weeklyEpisodes230Founded6 years ago
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On this episode of The Digital Patient, Dr. Joshua Liu, Co-founder & CEO of SeamlessMD, and colleague, Alan Sardana, chat with Pranav Jain, MD, MBA, Chief Health Information Officer at Wellstar Health System, about "What Ambient Rollouts Get Wrong Ab... more

On this episode of The Digital Patient, Dr. Joshua Liu, Co-founder & CEO of SeamlessMD, and colleague, Alan Sardana, chat with Andrew Miner, MD, Chief Health Information Officer at Inova Health, about "50x'ing IT Adoption Through Physician Bonuses, T... more

On this episode of The Digital Patient, Dr. Joshua Liu, Co-founder & CEO of SeamlessMD, and colleague, Alan Sardana, chat with Ryan Sadeghian, MD, MBA, MSc, former Enterprise Chief Medical Information Officer at the University of Toledo, about why yo... more

Josh and Alan reunite for a casual “solo” episode to catch up on Josh's adventures at Epic's XGM. They dive deep on how health systems are moving from AI Anxiety to AI Operations, the Great Snack Wheelbarrow Chase, Why Alan Dressed Up as the Tin Man,... more

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David Lovinger
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Episode: 224: Carle Health's ACMO/CIO Dr. David Lovinger: How a Sculptor Became a CMIO, Why Pop-Ups Are Almost Never the Right Answer, and How Design Thinking Fixes What Informatics Degrees Miss
Dr. Sara Helvey
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Episode: 222: Care New England’s CCIO Dr. Sara Helvey: What a Startup Failure Taught Her About Vendor Selection, Why AI Clinical Decision Support Keeps Backfiring, and What Comes After Ambient Documentation
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John Hanna
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Episode: 220: ECU Health’s CMIO Dr. John Hanna: What Clinicians Build When Given No-code AI Tools, Why Most Health Systems Are Governing AI Backwards, and Is a Personalized EHR a Dream or Inevitable?
Dr. Maruf Haider
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Bryon Frost
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Alan Sardana
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Joshua Liu
Co-host, CEO of SeamlessMD

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196: Stanford Children’s CHIO Dr. Natalie Pageler: The Hidden Pediatric Data Crisis, How AI Is Best Used in Pediatrics, and Preventing Automation Complacency in Medicine
Q: What role do ambient AI tools play in pediatrics, and how are they evaluated?
Ambient AI helps distinguish speakers in a family setting and reduces clinician typing burden, with ongoing qualitative and quantitative evaluations, including downstream metrics like time to encounter closure and patient/provider satisfaction.
196: Stanford Children’s CHIO Dr. Natalie Pageler: The Hidden Pediatric Data Crisis, How AI Is Best Used in Pediatrics, and Preventing Automation Complacency in Medicine
Q: What are the most misunderstood differences between pediatrics and adult care when it comes to informatics?
Pediatrics requires adapting decision support to changing physiology across development, and communication strategies must involve both the child and the family, with privacy and consent considerations evolving as the patient grows.
192: UCLA Health’s CMIO Dr. Eric Cheng: Applying Randomization to Informatics, Creating AI-Enabled, Personalized EHR Experiences for Every Clinician, and Advancing Equity Through Accurate Data
Q: What led UCLA to adopt randomization in informatics interventions?
Randomization helps control for biases and unmeasured confounders in complex clinical workflows, providing more reliable evidence about whether a technology actually improves outcomes or workflow efficiency, beyond what observational data could show.
200: Sutter Health’s CMIO Dr. Veena Jones: Scaling Ambient AI for Real-World ROI, Involving Patients to Design AI Inbox Responses that Actually Work, and Moving Beyond Pajama Time to True Fulfillment
Q: pajama time is a contentious metric; how should we think about reclaiming it?
Veena explains that pajama time is not the sole measure; the focus should be on clinician happiness and well-being, with time saved in the EHR being a proxy for reduced cognitive load. She emphasizes qualitative data and individualized approaches, recognizing that improvements may emerge over time as tools evolve.
200: Sutter Health’s CMIO Dr. Veena Jones: Scaling Ambient AI for Real-World ROI, Involving Patients to Design AI Inbox Responses that Actually Work, and Moving Beyond Pajama Time to True Fulfillment
Q: Why did Veena pursue medicine and pediatrics to begin with?
Veena describes a lifelong draw to helping children, evolving from teaching interests to medicine, and finding pediatrics to be the right fit. She also notes her early commitment to pioneering fellowship paths in pediatrics and informatics, which positioned her to blend clinical care with data and technology.

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What is The Digital Patient about and what kind of topics does it cover?

Across episodes, the show spotlights senior health IT leaders, CMIOs, and clinicians discussing how AI, ambient intelligence, and digital engagement reshape clinical workflows, governance, and patient experience. Conversations cover practical adoption, ROI, governance models, and how to keep clinicians at the center as systems scale. A notable throughline is balancing enterprise-scale control with startup agility, interoperability, and trust in AI-enabled care. What stands out is a consistent emphasis on human-centered design, real-world deployment constraints, and the strategic role of vendor partnerships in delivering sustainable digital patient engagement.

Potential listeners will likely be healthcare IT leaders, physicians exploring di... more

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1. Dr. Jackie Gerhart
2. Veena Lingam
3. David Lovinger
4. Dr. Sara Helvey
5. Vinh Nguyen
6. John Hanna
7. Dr. Maruf Haider
8. Bob Jarve

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