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The Digital Patient

SeamlessMD
AI In Healthcare
Patient Engagement
Digital Health
Artificial Intelligence
AI Scribes
Ambient AI
Electronic Health Records
Seamlessmd
Healthcare Technology
Digital Transformation
Artificial Intelligence In Healthcare
Clinical Decision Support
Patient Care
Health Systems Partnerships
Healthcare Innovation
Startup Landscape
Technology In Healthcare
Mychart
Patient Experience
Clinical Informatics

Stories from the frontline of Digital Patient Engagement

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Josh and Alan reunite for a casual “solo” episode to catch up on Josh's adventures at Epic's XGM. They dive deep on how health systems are moving from AI Anxiety to AI Operations, the Great Snack Wheelbarrow Chase, Why Alan Dressed Up as the Tin Man,... more

On this episode of The Digital Patient, Dr. Joshua Liu, Co-founder & CEO of SeamlessMD, and colleague, Alan Sardana, chat with Jackie Gerhart, MD, Chief Medical Officer at Epic Systems, about "Epic's Vision for The Intelligent Visit, Which of Epic's ... more

On this episode of The Digital Patient, Dr. Joshua Liu, Co-founder & CEO of SeamlessMD, and colleague, Alan Sardana, chat with Veena Lingam, MD, Associate Chief Medical Information Officer at the Moffitt Cancer Center, about "The Hidden Skills Requir... more

On this episode of The Digital Patient, Dr. Joshua Liu, Co-founder & CEO of SeamlessMD, and colleague, Alan Sardana, chat with David Lovinger, MD, FHM, FACP, Associate Chief Medical Officer and Chief Informatics Officer at Carle Health, about "How a ... more

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Dr. Jackie Gerhart
Chief Medical Officer, Epic Systems
Epic Systems
Episode: 226: Epic's CMO Dr. Jackie Gerhart: Epic's Vision for The Intelligent Visit, Which of Epic's 100+ AI Use Cases Get the Most Adoption, and What Changes About Physician Identity in the Age of AI
Veena Lingam
Associate CMIO at Moffitt Cancer Center
Moffitt Cancer Center
Episode: 225: Moffitt's ACMIO Dr. Veena Lingam: The Hidden Skills Required for CMIO 4.0, The Real Risk of Consumer AI Tools in Your Org Right Now, and How to Build AI Governance When There's No Blueprint
David Lovinger
Associate CMIO and Chief Informatics Officer at Carle Health
Carle Health
Episode: 224: Carle Health's ACMO/CIO Dr. David Lovinger: How a Sculptor Became a CMIO, Why Pop-Ups Are Almost Never the Right Answer, and How Design Thinking Fixes What Informatics Degrees Miss
Dr. Sara Helvey
Chief Clinical Information Officer at Care New England
Care New England
Episode: 222: Care New England’s CCIO Dr. Sara Helvey: What a Startup Failure Taught Her About Vendor Selection, Why AI Clinical Decision Support Keeps Backfiring, and What Comes After Ambient Documentation
Vinh Nguyen
CMIO at MemorialCare
MemorialCare
Episode: 221: MemorialCare’s CMIO Dr. Vinh Nguyen: Why Ambient AI Is Only a Fraction of the Burnout Solution, The Hidden In-Basket Problem Nobody Is Talking About, and Why Clinicians Don’t Trust AI Agents Yet
John Hanna
Associate CMIO of Digital Health and Research Analytics at ECU Health
ECU Health
Episode: 220: ECU Health’s CMIO Dr. John Hanna: What Clinicians Build When Given No-code AI Tools, Why Most Health Systems Are Governing AI Backwards, and Is a Personalized EHR a Dream or Inevitable?
Dr. Maruf Haider
Associate CMIO of Digital Health at Carilion Clinic
Carilion Clinic
Episode: 219: Carilion Clinic’s ACMIO Dr. Maruf Haider: The AI Question Nobody Wants to Answer, The Real Reason Clinicians Ignore CDS Alerts, and the One Phrase that Predicts Rollout Success
Bob Jarve
Associate CMIO for Population Health, Corewell Health (Michigan)
Corewell Health
Episode: 217: Corewell Health’s Dr. Bob Jarve: How Ambient AI Solves Burnout but Breaks Discrete Data Capture, Why Most Vendor Failures Happen Before Contract Signing, and How LLMs Supercharge SDoH Initiatives
Bryon Frost
CMIO of McLeod Health
McLeod Health
Episode: 216: McLeod Health’s Dr. Bryon Frost: Patient Visits of the Future with Patient-Clinician-AI Collaboration, Adaptive vs. Technical Informatics Challenges, and the Move to Patient-First Precision Care

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Alan Sardana
Host focused on digital patient engagement and health IT leadership.
Dr. Joshua Liu
Co-host and CEO of SeamlessMD, leading discussions on digital health and AI in care.

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212: UMMS’ Emily Jacobsen: Why Trust is the Real Operating System for Clinical Transformation, Using Leadership Rounding as an Informatics Superpower, and How to Avoid Pilots That Never Scale
Q: What changed your mind early in Emily's career about digital transformation being primarily about technology?
She realized transformation is driven by people, culture, and change management; trust and aligned incentives are what make the tech meaningful, not the tools themselves.
216: McLeod Health’s Dr. Bryon Frost: Patient Visits of the Future with Patient-Clinician-AI Collaboration, Adaptive vs. Technical Informatics Challenges, and the Move to Patient-First Precision Care
Q: What is your view on education about AI for clinicians and IT staff?
He advocates core competencies, reframing AI as augmentation, and ensuring providers understand risks, benefits, and how to interact with AI to avoid over-reliance.
216: McLeod Health’s Dr. Bryon Frost: Patient Visits of the Future with Patient-Clinician-AI Collaboration, Adaptive vs. Technical Informatics Challenges, and the Move to Patient-First Precision Care
Q: What is the biggest cultural hurdle for clinicians to adopt AI in patient care?
The main barrier is the entrenched paternalistic model and the need to shift to treating patients as customers, with care built around the patient rather than the clinic.
216: McLeod Health’s Dr. Bryon Frost: Patient Visits of the Future with Patient-Clinician-AI Collaboration, Adaptive vs. Technical Informatics Challenges, and the Move to Patient-First Precision Care
Q: How has being an ED physician shaped your approach to informatics today?
He explains that emergency medicine ingrains efficiency and cognitive load reduction, and that he categorizes problems into adaptive versus technical so the right solution is applied to the problem type.
226: Epic's CMO Dr. Jackie Gerhart: Epic's Vision for The Intelligent Visit, Which of Epic's 100+ AI Use Cases Get the Most Adoption, and What Changes About Physician Identity in the Age of AI
Q: How does Epic view innovation in relation to startups and external products?
Epic stresses deep customer understanding, workflow integration, and configurable deployments over fast 'one-size-fits-all' fixes; they encourage partnering and feedback rather than forcing customers to abandon existing solutions in favor of new Epic-only tools.

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The show centers on the intersection of clinical practice and digital health, with frequent deep dives into AI, EHRs, patient engagement, and how health systems operationalize technology. Across recent episodes, guests range from CMIOs and CIOs to health-system innovators, discussing topics like AI-assisted chart summarization, ambient documentation, digital transformation, ROI measurement for AI, and how to scale digital care initiatives such as remote monitoring and virtual urgent care. Unique angles include clinician-driven technology development, practical governance around data and cybersecurity, and the dynamics of partnerships between health systems and startups. Listeners likely include healthcare IT leaders and clinicians intereste... more

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1. Dr. Jackie Gerhart
2. Veena Lingam
3. David Lovinger
4. Dr. Sara Helvey
5. Vinh Nguyen
6. John Hanna
7. Dr. Maruf Haider
8. Bob Jarve

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