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The Access to Justice Lab at Harvard Law School discusses the work of bringing credible evidence to lawyers, judges, and decision makers, to transform the U.S. justice system into an evidence-based field. We bring you weekly one-on-one interviews with experts in the area of access to justice -- researchers, lawyers, professors, law students, data analysts, research participants, and anyone who has... more

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The Empower Parents with Resources Study is the largest randomized control trial of the effect of unrestricted cash gifts on child maltreatment in the United States. Researchers aim to find out if a reduction in financial stress equals a reduction in... more

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In this week's Proof Over Precedent episode, HLS J.D. candidate Strong Ma discusses how public perceptions of fairness influence the adoption of AI and algorithms in medicine and law, two industries with varying levels of support and trust in AI. Th... more

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Strong Ma
Harvard Law School 2L, author of a blog post on AI in law and medicine
Harvard Law School
Episode: Episode 38: Fair or Foul--AI in Medicine and Law
Jon Hanson
Professor focusing on systemic justice, legitimacy of the legal system, and law and mind sciences
Harvard Law School
Episode: Episode 38: Fair or Foul--AI in Medicine and Law
Matthew Stubenberg
President of Stubenberg Legal Group; former Access to Justice Lab contributor
Stubenberg Legal Group; Access to Justice Lab
Episode: Episode 36: Record Clearing Insights: How Data Can Impact Policy
Marilyn Harp
Former executive director of Kansas Legal Services
Kansas Legal Services
Episode: Episode 35: Legal Hurdles in Expungement: A Kansas Case Study
Hannah Crowe
Researcher and former Harvard Law School student
The Access to Justice Lab / Berndtrest LLP
Episode: Episode 35: Legal Hurdles in Expungement: A Kansas Case Study
Sanya Starr
Criminal and constitutional law scholar, University of Chicago; economist by training
University of Chicago
Episode: Episode 34: Studying the Expungement Paradox
JJ Prescott
Law professor, University of Michigan Law School; economist by training
University of Michigan
Episode: Episode 34: Studying the Expungement Paradox
Kristen Arnold
1L student at Harvard Law School, interested in criminal law
Harvard Law School
Episode: Episode 31: Life Without Parole—a Death Sentence in Disguise
Laura Quino
LLM student, interested in gender
Harvard Law School
Episode: Episode 31: Life Without Parole—a Death Sentence in Disguise

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Jim Greiner
Host of Proof Over Precedent

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Episode 5: Can Simple, Affordable Ideas Improve Courts’ Costly Failure-to-Appear Rates?
Q: Why wasn't the ticket redesign itself randomized in New York?
Because it was rolled out via officers using up their existing pads of tickets, making a full randomization across precincts impractical; instead, a regression discontinuity design was used to infer the impact.
Episode 5: Can Simple, Affordable Ideas Improve Courts’ Costly Failure-to-Appear Rates?
Q: What were the two main interventions studied in New York?
Redesigning the traffic ticket/summons to clarify the court date and adding a text-message reminder system for those who provided a phone number, with the ticket redesign deployed first to enable collection of phone numbers for reminders.
Episode 4: Can Immigration Courts Save Time, Money, AND Noncitizen Dignity with Legal Information Programs?
Q: Can you speak to the evidence about cost savings and whether findings are contested or controversial?
The discussion covers mixed findings: some reviews suggested cost savings while a 2018 government review claimed increased detention time, countered by Vera Institute's study indicating faster case resolution for participants when accounting for pending cases using Survival Analysis.
Episode 4: Can Immigration Courts Save Time, Money, AND Noncitizen Dignity with Legal Information Programs?
Q: It's possible to give a broad description of how these processes work from the perspective of someone without a lawyer?
Julia explains that these programs provide group orientations and pro se assistance, help people understand where to send filings, and connect some with pro bono lawyers, with access varying by detention center and court.
Episode 2: Should AI Dole Out Legal Advice to Lawyers?
Q: And would this be in the context of an interaction with someone they're attempting to help or is this when they're trying to write memorandum or what's the setting?
The setting is client services where attorneys interact with the AI during consultations, and the AI provides feedback to guide the conversation with the client, rather than the AI drafting formal memos in isolation.

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This show focuses on applying credible evidence to real-world justice problems. Across episodes, discussions center on data-driven policy, access to justice, and the practical impact of research on law, policing, and court administration. Guests are often academics, researchers, and practitioners from law schools and policy institutes who dissect complex issues like expungement, pretrial detention, arbitration vs. litigation, and how regulatory or procedural reforms play out in practice. A standout element is the consistent emphasis on methodological rigor, empirical findings, and translating research into actionable reforms, sometimes featuring novel topics like AI in medicine versus law, or the ethics of IRB oversight in criminal justice ... more

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