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Harvard Law School
Access To Justice Lab
Common Rule
Divorce
Child Welfare
Pretrial Detention
Involuntary Commitment
IRB
Failure To Appear
Civil Forfeiture
Medicine
Law
Pennsylvania
Kansas
Arbitration
California
Life Without the Possibility Of Parole
Search Warrants
Expungement (kansas)
Rogers Hearings

The Access to Justice Lab at Harvard Law School discusses the work of bringing credible evidence to lawyers, judges, and decision makers, to transform the U.S. justice system into an evidence-based field. We bring you weekly one-on-one interviews with experts in the area of access to justice -- researchers, lawyers, professors, law students, data analysts, research participants, and anyone who has... more

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When the organized bar association faced financial strain during the Depression, it cracked down on low-cost legal service providers via auto clubs like AAA, contributing to today's access-to-justice gap. In this "How did we get here?"-style episode,... more

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How likely would you be able to answer questions under duress seated in a hard chair in a windowless, flourescent-lit box of a room? What about in a larger space with natural lighting and comfortable seating? In this episode of Proof Over Precedent, ... more

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The role of trained nonlawyer volunteers is at the center of a back-and-forth court case between nonprofit Upsolve, Inc. and Letitia James, attorney general of the state of New York. This "Student Voices" episode tackles both the access to justice is... more

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In this week’s Proof Over Precedent episode, we look at civil forfeiture—law enforcement’s seizing and relinquishing of property based on probable cause in a criminal connection—and the impact it has on individuals, including innocent third-party own... more

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Recent Guests

Joe Lieberman
Guest discussing civil forfeiture research and blog
Harvard Law School
Episode: Episode 45: Proof and Property—Is Civil Forfeiture a Just Practice?
Chief Judge Wilson
Chief Judge of the New York Court of Appeals
New York Court of Appeals
Episode: Episode 44: Chief Judge Wilson's Family Court Vision—Problem Solving the Present Over Punishing the Past
Mia Robertson
1L at Harvard Law School discussing child welfare and incarcerated parents
Harvard Law School
Episode: Episode 43: Navigating Child Custody Challenges From Behind Bars
Melody Webb
Executive director and founder of Mothers Outreach Network (MOND/MON)
Mothers Outreach Network
Episode: Episode 41: How Evidence-Based Research Could Transform the Child Welfare System
William Schneider
Professor at University of Illinois School of Social Work; Faculty Director of Children and Family Research Center
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Episode: Episode 40: EmPwR Study–How Financial Support Means Family Support
Emily Suski
Professor and founder of CHAMPS Medical-Legal Partnership
University of South Carolina Law School
Episode: Episode 39: On the Medical-Legal Collaboration Pioneering Child Welfare Solutions
Strong Ma
Harvard Law School 2L, author of a blog post on AI in law and medicine
Harvard Law School
Episode: Episode 38: Fair or Foul--AI in Medicine and Law
Jon Hanson
Professor focusing on systemic justice, legitimacy of the legal system, and law and mind sciences
Harvard Law School
Episode: Episode 38: Fair or Foul--AI in Medicine and Law
Matthew Stubenberg
President of Stubenberg Legal Group; former Access to Justice Lab contributor
Stubenberg Legal Group; Access to Justice Lab
Episode: Episode 36: Record Clearing Insights: How Data Can Impact Policy

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Jim Greiner
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Episode 43: Navigating Child Custody Challenges From Behind Bars
Q: Mia, what drew you to focus on the child welfare system and incarcerated parents for this topic?
I'm interested in access to justice issues facing parents in the child welfare process, particularly when incarceration intersects with their ability to participate and reunify with their children, which is a major and under-addressed area.
Episode 42: Can Financial (and Other) Support Help Reduce Child Welfare Involvement in Neglect Cases?
Q: How do Phase 2 outcomes relate to broader policy goals?
Outcomes support changes like shifting cash provision responsibilities away from punitive agencies toward supportive, trusted community organizations and policies such as unconditional cash and targeted tax credits.
Episode 42: Can Financial (and Other) Support Help Reduce Child Welfare Involvement in Neglect Cases?
Q: What did success look like at the start of Phase 2?
Success was framed as the cash transfers helping families move out of crisis, building trust, and ethically and practically validating the model.
Episode 42: Can Financial (and Other) Support Help Reduce Child Welfare Involvement in Neglect Cases?
Q: What is Mother's Outreach Network hoping to accomplish with Phase 2?
MON aims to use an evidence-based approach with Harvard's involvement to demonstrate that cash transfers can improve outcomes for families and inform policy decisions.
Episode 5: Can Simple, Affordable Ideas Improve Courts’ Costly Failure-to-Appear Rates?
Q: Why wasn't the ticket redesign itself randomized in New York?
Because it was rolled out via officers using up their existing pads of tickets, making a full randomization across precincts impractical; instead, a regression discontinuity design was used to infer the impact.

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This show focuses on applying credible evidence to real-world justice problems. Across episodes, discussions center on data-driven policy, access to justice, and the practical impact of research on law, policing, and court administration. Guests are often academics, researchers, and practitioners from law schools and policy institutes who dissect complex issues like expungement, pretrial detention, arbitration vs. litigation, and how regulatory or procedural reforms play out in practice. A standout element is the consistent emphasis on methodological rigor, empirical findings, and translating research into actionable reforms, sometimes featuring novel topics like AI in medicine versus law, or the ethics of IRB oversight in criminal justice ... more

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