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On The Merits takes you behind the scenes of the legal world and the inner workings of law firms. This podcast offers in-depth analysis on the latest trends, challenges, and opportunities shaping the business of law and the legal industry overall. You'll gain insights into how the latest government actions, policies, and business developments are impacting the industry and hear from leading attorn... more

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Today's guest on our podcast, On The Merits, is a general counsel who is looking for more from the law firms trying to win his business. Specifically, he wants to hear more about how and why they're using AI.

Eric Dodson Greenberg is the top lawyer ... more

President Donald Trump's attacks on law firms have hand their intended impact, even as courts shoot down executive orders against some as unconstitutional and the details of White House deals with others remain unclear, according to Yale Law School p... more

You don't get to be the oldest law firm in New York without weathering some rough spots. But this may be one of the most difficult periods Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft has ever gone through.

The Wall Street firm, which this week announced a new man... more

Law firms "have gold sitting on their hard drives," according to Yale Law School professor Scott Shapiro.

Shapiro has enthusiastically embraced the use of generative AI in his classroom. He says firms should draw on the mountains of proprietary info... more

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Recent Guests

Scott Shapiro
Professor at Yale Law School, focused on integrating AI into legal education
Yale Law School
Episode: Every Law Firm Should Build Their Own AI, Yale Professor Says
Michelle Kallen
Co-chair of the Appeals and Advocacy Practice, former Solicitor General of Virginia
Steptoe
Episode: Data Center Explosion Hands Big Law Cross-Practice Opportunities
Mike Rechtin
Real estate lawyer specializing in data centers
Latham & Watkins
Episode: Data Center Explosion Hands Big Law Cross-Practice Opportunities
Justin Stolte
Partner focusing on energy issues
Latham & Watkins
Episode: Data Center Explosion Hands Big Law Cross-Practice Opportunities
Nikia Gray
Executive Director of the National Association for Law Placement
National Association for Law Placement
Episode: Why Law Schools are Making a 'Big Mistake' in AI Era Admissions
David Lat
Bloomberg Law columnist and author of the original jurisdiction newsletter
Bloomberg Law
Episode: Trump's Law Firm Deals May Have Hurt Headcount: David Lat
Jessica Chin Somers
Former big law attorney and current managing director at Kinney Recruiting
Kinney Recruiting
Episode: King & Spalding 2,400 Hour Rule Is Just the Norm, Recruiter Says
William Hubbard
Deputy Dean at the University of Chicago Law School
University of Chicago Law School
Episode: Chicago Law Dean on AI: You Won't Be Able to Entirely Avoid It
Benjamin Klubes
Former Biden administration official and Skadden partner, now founder of Klubes Law Group
Klubes Law Group
Episode: Ex-Skadden Partner Talks Taking on Trump With New Solo Firm

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Jessie Kamens
Host who explores significant legal topics and industry changes, bringing expert insights into the inner workings of law firms and the legal field.
David Schultz
Host providing analysis on pressing legal matters, discussing the implications of governmental and industry changes, along with expert commentaries.
Jessi Kamens
Co-host contributing to discussions around legal and industry trends, emphasizing expert opinions from various stakeholders.

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4.0 out of 5 stars from 41 ratings
  • Excellent!

    Always insightful and informative. The journalists do a great job explaining recent and intriguing issues!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Didi Sug
    United States2 years ago
  • Journalists with an Agenda Spitting Propaganda

    Journalists with no legal education seeing things through partisan and ideological lenses and distorting legal arguments to promote their world view. Good example of propaganda and fake journalism. Listen if you want to listen to bad journalism and see examples of propaganda

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    Leea1776
    United States2 years ago
  • So Broad As To Be Useless

    This covers such a wide range of topics perhaps 1/7 episodes is of interest to a practitioner. I wish they did more industry specific podcasts like one for mass tort, one for securities litigation, etc.

    Apple Podcasts
    2
    Here4youguys
    United States3 years ago
  • Seems good!

    Seems like a decent podcast but I couldn’t focus because the audio was so terrible

    Apple Podcasts
    3
    SaraClaireSharp
    United States7 years ago

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Overall, the content is considered valuable for legal professionals seeking to stay informed.
There are some criticisms regarding perceived biases in reporting and a lack of focus on specific legal sectors.

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NY's Oldest Law Firm Loses Key Partners, Faces Tough Choices
Q: How does Cadwalader's specialization affect their current challenges?
Cadwalader's over-specialization in niche finance practices may be limiting their adaptability compared to competitors that offer a full range of services.
NY's Oldest Law Firm Loses Key Partners, Faces Tough Choices
Q: Can you explain why partners are leaving Cadwalader?
Many partners left due to dissatisfaction with a pro bono deal made with the Trump administration and concerns about the firm's future direction.
Trump Attacks Could Have Killed Law Firms, Yale Prof Says
Q: Are you surprised in these six months by anything that has played out?
The firms with large corporate practices would be more likely to settle, while litigation firms would be more likely to fight, and that is exactly how things worked out.
Trump Attacks Could Have Killed Law Firms, Yale Prof Says
Q: Where, in your opinion, do we stand right now and what kind of uncertainty still remains?
The biggest challenge that surfaced is the uncertainty around what exactly the law firms that were targeted by the administration agreed to do.
Trump's Law Firm Deals May Have Hurt Headcount: David Lat
Q: Is that a possibility that this is a lagging indicator that doesn't show us all the data?
Absolutely, some partners or associates might be looking to leave, but are waiting for bonuses or other reasons before making a move.

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