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Thinking Like A Lawyer is a podcast featuring Above the Law's Joe Patrice, Kathryn Rubino, and Chris Williams. Each episode, the hosts will take a topic experienced and enjoyed by regular people, and shine it through the prism of a legal framework. This will either reveal an awesome rainbow of thought, or a disorienting kaleidoscope of issues. Either way, it should be fun.

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Leah Litman
Professor at Michigan Law and author of 'Lawless: How the Supreme Court Runs on Conservative Grievance, Fringe Theories and Bad Vibes.'
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Episode: Supreme Court Just Making It Up As It Goes Along

Hosts

Joe Patrice
Host of Thinking Like A Lawyer; senior editor with Above the Law; regular host in legal analysis and commentary.
Kathryn Rubino
Co-host and legal journalist; provides analysis on law firm culture, policy, and court dynamics.
Chris Williams
Co-host; contributes sharp legal analysis and humorous banter.

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4.0 out of 5 stars from 636 ratings
  • Love it

    They’re smart and funny. I love them!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    myk122333
    United States4 months ago
  • Well done and thoughtful

    The hosts are knowledgeable and insightful, providing solid analysis and commentary. A consistently excellent show.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    NoNickname4944
    United States6 months ago
  • Podcast yes. Soundboard.. no

    I have to say I think you could really really lose the soundboard. I like the podcast but that thing is grating

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    );9/198;$/!-@.8
    United States7 months ago
  • Deserves that Golden Globe

    I’ve been tuning into this podcast since my law school days. As a lawyer in California, I also listen to other legal podcasts, but they usually get pretty dry & become background noise. I’m really surprised and a little offended by the low ratings this podcast has received because these three hosts have become a staple in my weekly routine. I appreciate how each episode dives into serious legal issues without being dull. Please keep the small talk, the weekly legal discussions, and all the spont... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    vanessaxanne
    United States7 months ago
  • Serious, accessible, and funny

    I’m not a lawyer and I’m not involved in the legal profession at all but Above the Law: Thinking Like a Lawyer has become one of my favorite listens.

    Our nanny is in law school, and I wanted a way to better relate to her and understand a huge part of her life that exists outside of our family. This podcast has been a surprisingly great bridge. I’ve learned about the Bar, clerkships, bonuses, law firm culture, and the realities of the profession in a way that’s engaging, accessible, and often ve... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    ThugChihuahuas
    United States8 months ago

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Audience appreciates accessible explanations of complex legal topics.
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Supreme Court Just Making It Up As It Goes Along
Q: How are you balancing the evolving nature of the law with the permanence of a published book?
Litman aimed to provide contextual insights into evolving legal issues while acknowledging the manuscript's cutoff for printing.
Supreme Court Just Making It Up As It Goes Along
Q: What inspired you to tackle this book?
Leah Litman was alarmed by the Supreme Court's actions since her clerkship, aiming to highlight its concerning developments.

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