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Nonprofits Are Messy: Lessons in Leadership | Fundraising | Board Development | Communications

Joan Garry
Leadership
Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion
Nonprofit Leadership Lab
Relationship Management
Nonprofit Leadership
Nonprofits
Social Justice
Fundraising
Keystone Conversation
How To Work With Almost Anyone
Best Possible Relationship
Martyritis
Subtle Acts Of Exclusion
Microaggressions
Cultural Intelligence
Nonprofit Sector
Innovation
Gender Equality
Coaching Habit
Psychological Safety

Joan Garry: Nonprofit Leader and former Executive Director of GLAAD helps fellow CEOs, Boards and Board Chairs, Fundraisers, and Nonprofit Marketers

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Artwork for Nonprofits Are Messy: Lessons in Leadership

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In this episode, Glennda and I reflect on what last year revealed about leadership–and what must change going forward. From adaptive leadership to intentional planning to shared power and long-term thinking, this conversation explores how nonprofit l... more

When the relationship between a board chair and CEO is strong, it can transform an entire organization, but most nonprofit leaders aren’t taught how to build it well. Girl Scouts of the USA’s CEO Bonnie Barczykowski and Board President Noorain Khan j... more

2025 felt like a year when everything became more and harder. More crises. More fear. More civic strain. More communities under pressure. And yet – more leadership, too. In this episode, Glennda connects with Darlene Nipper, President of the Rockwood... more

Nonprofits aren’t “less than” – they’re labs for modern leadership. I’ll share 8 nonprofit lessons corporate leaders need now.

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Bonnie Barczykowski
CEO of Girl Scouts of the USA
Girl Scouts of the USA
Episode: Ep 244: The Board Chair–CEO Blueprint: What Every Nonprofit Can Learn from Girl Scouts USA
Noorain Khan
President of the Board at Girl Scouts of the USA
Girl Scouts of the USA
Episode: Ep 244: The Board Chair–CEO Blueprint: What Every Nonprofit Can Learn from Girl Scouts USA
Darlene Nipper
Running the Rockwood Leadership Institute and an advocate for social justice and leadership development
Rockwood Leadership Institute
Episode: Ep 243: What 2025 Taught Us About Real Leadership with Darlene Nipper
Garrett Cathcart
Co-founder and executive director of More Perfect Union
More Perfect Union
Episode: Ep 240: NEIGHBORS FIRST: HOW TO FIND COMMON GROUND with Garrett Cathcart
Erica Fortescue
Leads a professional coaching and consulting firm that delivers coaching and training for purpose-driven leaders and their teams.
Episode: Ep: 239 ADHD at Work: A Guide for Nonprofit Leaders and Teams
Vivian Chang
Leader of the Democratizing Philanthropy Project
Democratizing Philanthropy Project
Episode: Ep. 238: Small Gifts, Big Impact: Building Sustainable Revenue from Everyday Donors (with Vivian Chang)
Darian Rodriguez Heyman
Accomplished author, fundraising and philanthropy consultant, and former executive director of the Craigslist Foundation.
Helping People Help
Episode: Ep 237: The AI Field Guide: A Playbook for Nonprofit Success with Darian Rodriguez Heyman and Cheryl Contee
Cheryl Contee
Pioneering technology entrepreneur and digital transformation expert.
AI for Nonprofits
Episode: Ep 237: The AI Field Guide: A Playbook for Nonprofit Success with Darian Rodriguez Heyman and Cheryl Contee
Mitch Stein
Head of Strategy at Chariot, which is focused on donor advised fund payments
Chariot
Episode: Ep. 235: Donor-Advised Funds Demystified (with Mitch Stein)

Host

Joan Garry
Joan Garry is a recognized nonprofit leader and former executive director of GLAAD, bringing extensive experience in nonprofit management and leadership. She is passionate about empowering fellow nonprofit executives and board members through insightful conversations and practical advice.

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4.6 out of 5 stars from 386 ratings
  • Used to be fantastic

    Unfortunately, Joan cannot check her ego at the door anymore. She talks over guests, inserts her worldview, and boasts endlessly about her contributions. The guests are amazing. I only wish the interviewer would return to being amazing too.

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    DonorAdviceFun
    United States9 months ago
  • I am just exploring the nonprofit sector. The conversations in these podcasts are enlightening and helpful. I think this will be helpful to me in making decisions about whether to move forward.

    Audible
    5
    K. Shea
    United States2 years ago
  • Just learning; valuable information here!

    I am just exploring the nonprofit sector. The conversations in these podcasts are enlightening and helpful. I think this will be helpful to me in making decisions about whether to move forward.

    Audible
    5
    K. Shea
    United States2 years ago
  • Brilliant!

    Joan is a deep thinker and takes a novel and strategic approach to solving problems. Joan's advice and thinking about all things nonprofit is some of the best!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    libbyv55
    United States2 years ago
  • Practice patience and wait your turn

    I became a subscriber to this podcast as I have a heart to listen and do better in my executive role. Joan has given me many things to consider and ways to improve. Lately I’m noticing Joan interrupting and speaking over guests with regularity. I love that she is passionate and has insight, but when a guest is speaking to broaden the conversation and offer value, be polite, allow them opportunity, listen to their wisdom, and let them speak so that we as an audience can hear *them.* Our enthusias... more

    Apple Podcasts
    3
    Schoenwx
    United States2 years ago

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The motivational nature of episodes encourages nonprofit leaders to embrace innovative practices and self-care techniques.
Listeners feel a strong sense of community and are motivated to improve their own organizations.
Joan's incredible insights make complex nonprofit topics approachable and actionable.
Some listeners express concerns about the host's interviewing style but still appreciate the value of the content.

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Ep 243: What 2025 Taught Us About Real Leadership with Darlene Nipper
Q: What should philanthropy consider in their funding strategies?
Philanthropy should give generously and focus on supporting grassroots efforts and community-centric leadership.
Ep 243: What 2025 Taught Us About Real Leadership with Darlene Nipper
Q: What advice would you give to leaders navigating current challenges?
Leaders should focus on what they know best about their communities, pivot strategies as needed, and share insights with their peers.
Ep 243: What 2025 Taught Us About Real Leadership with Darlene Nipper
Q: What have you been seeing in leadership during 2025?
There is immense hope; people are stepping up in their communities and leading in response to needs, showing resilience despite challenges.
Ep 240: NEIGHBORS FIRST: HOW TO FIND COMMON GROUND with Garrett Cathcart
Q: How does someone get involved?
Garrett advises signing up on the More Perfect Union website to find local 'brickyards' and engage in community initiatives.
Ep 240: NEIGHBORS FIRST: HOW TO FIND COMMON GROUND with Garrett Cathcart
Q: Can you fill us in? How did this thing get off the ground?
Garrett shares that he transitioned from the military to nonprofit work, realizing a deep desire for purpose and community.

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Content largely revolves around the challenges and nuances faced by nonprofit organizations. Key topics include nonprofit leadership, budgeting strategies, fundraising innovation, and the importance of community engagement and civic responsibility. Episodes often feature guests from various sectors who share insights on how to tackle the unique challenges in the nonprofit world, such as mental health awareness, succession planning, and the effects of political climate on funding. A standout characteristic of this show is its commitment to empowering nonprofit leaders with actionable strategies grounded in real-life experiences, fostering a collaborative environment for problem-solving and growth.

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