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Nonprofits Are Messy: Lessons in Leadership | Fundraising | Board Development | Communications

Joan Garry
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Nonprofits
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Joan Garry: Nonprofit Leader and former Executive Director of GLAAD helps fellow CEOs, Boards and Board Chairs, Fundraisers, and Nonprofit Marketers

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Too many Development Directors feel like failures if they don't hit their revenue numbers — even when circumstances are beyond their control. In this episode, I explore why this mindset is harmful and what nonprofits can do to redefine success.

Donor-Advised Funds (DAFs) are booming—but most nonprofit leaders still find them confusing or inaccessible. In this episode, Mitch Stein from Chariot joins Glennda Testone to bust common myths, explain how DAFs work, and share how both donors and no... more

Succession planning gets treated like a worst-case scenario when it should be a regular part of nonprofit leadership. In this episode, Glennda and I get candid about our own transitions—and what we wish we’d known sooner.

Whiplash. That’s how it feels to lead a nonprofit right now. Executive coach, Alex Love and Glennda Testone explore how leaders can stay grounded, care for their teams, and hold onto their mission through constant change.

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Mitch Stein
Head of Strategy at Chariot, which is focused on donor advised fund payments
Chariot
Episode: Ep. 235: Donor-Advised Funds Demystified (with Mitch Stein)
Alex Love
Executive coach and founder of Alex Love Consulting
Alex Love Consulting
Episode: Ep. 233: Leading Through Whiplash: How to Stay Grounded in Uncertain Times (with Alex Love)
Omar Lopez
Deputy Mayor of Austin, New York and Principal at DRG Talent
DRG Talent
Episode: Ep 231: Improving the Nonprofit Talent Search (with Omar Lopez)
Amy Eisenstein
CEO and co-founder of Capital Campaign Pro
Capital Campaign Pro
Episode: Ep. 230: Think Big: How Capital Campaigns Fuel Long-Term Growth (with Amy Eisenstein)
Michael Hyatt
Founder and chairman of Full Focus, productivity consultant, and author
Full Focus
Episode: Ep 227: What Challenging Times Make Possible (with Michael Hyatt)
Amol Sinha
Executive Director of the ACLU of New Jersey and a nationally recognized civil rights leader
ACLU of New Jersey
Episode: Ep. 226: Nonprofits in the Chaos of 2025: What’s At Stake And How to Respond (with Amol Sinha)
Mariam Habib
Licensed clinical social worker specializing in trauma, educator, facilitator, and trainer.
Episode: Ep 225: The Secret to Sustainability: Taking Care of Yourself as You Lead (with Mariam Habib)
Dr. Tracy Brower
Sociologist studying work-life fulfillment, happiness and the future of work.
Senior Contributor to Forbes, Contributor to Newsweek and Fast Company
Episode: Ep 224: Fighting Loneliness In Remote Work (with Dr. Tracy Brower)
Nancy Smith
Executive Director of Activating Change, specializing in the intersection of disability and justice.
Activating Change
Episode: Ep 223: Activating Change: Fighting Ableism and Building Accessible Nonprofits (with Nancy Smith)

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Joan Garry
Nonprofit leader, former Executive Director of GLAAD, and host focused on providing insights into nonprofit leadership and fundraising.

Reviews

4.6 out of 5 stars from 379 ratings
  • Used to be fantastic

    Unfortunately, Joan cannot check her ego at the door anymore. She talks over guests, inserts her worldview, and boasts endlessly about her contributions. The guests are amazing. I only wish the interviewer would return to being amazing too.

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    DonorAdviceFun
    United States5 months ago
  • I am just exploring the nonprofit sector. The conversations in these podcasts are enlightening and helpful. I think this will be helpful to me in making decisions about whether to move forward.

    Audible
    5
    K. Shea
    United Statesa year ago
  • Just learning; valuable information here!

    I am just exploring the nonprofit sector. The conversations in these podcasts are enlightening and helpful. I think this will be helpful to me in making decisions about whether to move forward.

    Audible
    5
    K. Shea
    United Statesa year ago
  • Brilliant!

    Joan is a deep thinker and takes a novel and strategic approach to solving problems. Joan's advice and thinking about all things nonprofit is some of the best!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    libbyv55
    United States2 years ago
  • Practice patience and wait your turn

    I became a subscriber to this podcast as I have a heart to listen and do better in my executive role. Joan has given me many things to consider and ways to improve. Lately I’m noticing Joan interrupting and speaking over guests with regularity. I love that she is passionate and has insight, but when a guest is speaking to broaden the conversation and offer value, be polite, allow them opportunity, listen to their wisdom, and let them speak so that we as an audience can hear *them.* Our enthusias... more

    Apple Podcasts
    3
    Schoenwx
    United States2 years ago

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Overall feedback highlights the relevance of the topics discussed, with many considering it a valuable resource for nonprofit leaders.
There are some critiques about the host occasionally interrupting guests, reflecting a desire for better facilitation of discussions.
Listeners appreciate the insightful advice and tangible strategies offered, often feeling empowered to effect change in their organizations.

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Ep. 235: Donor-Advised Funds Demystified (with Mitch Stein)
Q: Why should nonprofit leaders, organizations, and development departments concern themselves with DAFs?
It's important because DAFs represent the fastest growing vehicle of giving in the sector, leading to a significant increase in funding opportunities.
Ep. 235: Donor-Advised Funds Demystified (with Mitch Stein)
Q: What is a DAF?
A DAF stands for Donor Advised Fund, a philanthropic account where funds can be donated for charitable purposes, offering tax advantages.
Ep. 233: Leading Through Whiplash: How to Stay Grounded in Uncertain Times (with Alex Love)
Q: If a nonprofit can hire a consultant to help think through these big cultural shifts that are happening, what can those who cannot do this expect?
Leaders should find support among each other, engage staff via open questions about their feelings, and ensure staff feel heard.
Ep. 230: Think Big: How Capital Campaigns Fuel Long-Term Growth (with Amy Eisenstein)
Q: Do capital campaigns cannibalize annual fundraising revenue?
No, a good consultant will ensure the annual fund remains stable or grows during the campaign.
Ep. 230: Think Big: How Capital Campaigns Fuel Long-Term Growth (with Amy Eisenstein)
Q: What is a capital campaign, and what isn't it?
A capital campaign raises funds for special projects and is distinct from annual operating funds.

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This podcast focuses on critical themes in the nonprofit sector, exploring various challenges and opportunities faced by leaders in this space. Discussions often center around effective fundraising strategies, board governance, nonprofit management, and the emotional aspects of leadership. High-profile guests, including experts and practitioners from various sectors, bring a rich diversity of insights, aiming to empower listeners with actionable advice and innovative ideas to better their organizational practices. The podcast is particularly noted for its commitment to fostering a supportive community among nonprofit leaders and advocates, creating a space where listeners feel encouraged and motivated to implement positive change within the... more

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