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Dave Morin, Jessica Lessin, Brit Morin, and Sam Lessin have debated the future of Silicon Valley and tech as the closest of friends for the last 15 years. Now six companies, two venture funds and more than a decade at Google, Apple and Facebook later, they are opening up the debate. From The Information, Offline Ventures, and Slow Ventures. Follow the crew: x.com/davemorin x.com/brit... more

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This week on More or Less: Jess drops The Information’s scoop on Oracle’s shaky GPU rental margins and how it spooked markets, while Sam insists AI workloads will soar, even if profits don’t. Dave crunches the numbers: an “Apollo program every 10 mon... more

Never a dull moment with the More or Less squad: Jessica questions whether Sora is just a novelty or the start of an AI-native social economy, arguing OpenAI needs its own device to escape current platform limits. Brit calls it “Vine meets MySpace,” ... more

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No Morins this week—just Jess and Sam, trading Gossip Girl “dear listener” asides for a tour of tech’s new power map. From Meta’s in-store glasses push to Apple’s “Find My” doubling as Gen Z’s stealth social network, the real story is how distributio... more

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The More or Less team go deep on the rumored TikTok deal: licensing the algorithm vs. owning influence, who actually controls the For You page, and why data localization misses the point. We debate A16Z’s evolving role, Sequoia’s must-have-access imp... more

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Recent Guests

Brett Taylor
Chairman of OpenAI
OpenAI
Episode: #113 GPT-5 Disappoints: The End of the AI Gold Rush?
Anatoly Yakovenko
Founder of Solana
Solana
Episode: #107 Anatoly Yakovenko: Crypto Isn’t for Everyone (And That’s a Good Thing)
Fidji Simo
CEO of Applications at OpenAI and former CEO of Instacart
OpenAI
Episode: #100: OpenAI Teams Up with Jony Ive, Vibe Coding, Gemini, and More
Ben Lerer
Managing partner at Lerer Hippeau Ventures, known for New York investing and building companies like Thrillist
Lerer Hippeau Ventures
Episode: #95: OpenAI’s Social Network & Figma’s Potential IPO
Morgan Beller
General partner at NFX, co-creator of Libra, previously at Medium and Andreessen Horowitz
NFX
Episode: #95: OpenAI’s Social Network & Figma’s Potential IPO
Joanna Coles
Chief Content Officer at The Daily Beast and a veteran journalist
The Daily Beast
Episode: #94: Will Elon Quit DC? Trump’s Chaos & AI’s China Threat (with Joanna Coles)
Ben Smith
Founder and editor-in-chief of Semafor, previously editor of BuzzFeed News
Semafor
Episode: #92: The Signal Scandal & DOGE Drama! (with Ben Smith and Nicholas Carlson)
Nick Carlson
Founder of Stealth Dynamo, previously at Business Insider
Dynamo
Episode: #92: The Signal Scandal & DOGE Drama! (with Ben Smith and Nicholas Carlson)
Aaron Levie
CEO of Box
Box
Episode: #76: In a World with 99.99% Accurate AI… (feat. Aaron Levie)

Hosts

Dave Morin
Co-host and experienced tech entrepreneur with extensive background in Silicon Valley.
Jessica Lessin
Co-host and an expert in tech journalism and media.
Brit Morin
Co-host and entrepreneur, known for her insights into consumer technology.
Sam Lessin
Co-host with a focus on venture capital and tech strategy.

Reviews

3.9 out of 5 stars from 245 ratings
  • ChatGPT 5 Episode Hit Home

    Thank you Sam for saying out loud what I think people are finally coming to realize about Sam and Elon. Seriously refreshing!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    jdhouse4
    United States2 months ago
  • Smart and fun

    Like a tech news/analysis and variety show—they’re obviously all super sharp and have a great depth of experience, but it’s also entertaining. They’ve got a good dynamic and it’s fun to listen to. Feels a little like crashing their dinner party.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    MotivatedLinSF
    United States2 months ago
  • How shallow can you go

    Podcast Addict
    1
    rsc
    7 months ago
  • These people are too into themselves and not enough into the subject at hand

    Half of the show are the people talking about what they did this weekend and their personal shopping preferences. It’s just not worth the time to sort through that to get to any useful information the show might have to give. Get over yourselves.

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    Stuart Wilder
    United Statesa year ago
  • Audio too low in volume

    Episode #69 had an unusually low volume. It’s not normally this low.

    Apple Podcasts
    4
    Casualuser12
    United Statesa year ago

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Overall, many find the insights valuable and enjoy the humorous banter that accompanies serious discussions.
Listeners appreciate the entertaining and lighthearted style, even when discussing complex tech issues.
Feedback suggests a desire for more structured conversations, as frequent interruptions can lead to chaotic discussions.
Some criticisms highlight occasional disorganization and rapid talking, which can make it hard to follow.
The chemistry among the hosts is often praised, making the show feel relatable and engaging.

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#166
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#40
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#156
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#217
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#222
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#239
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Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

#115 Anthropic at $170B: Should Unicorns Be Forced to IPO?
Q: Should there be a valuation-based threshold for being a public company?
Sam argues against it, saying that it would just lead to games. He feels that letting sophisticated investors act freely is acceptable unless it's detrimental to society.
#103: Are Silicon Valley’s Mega-Deals Just Talent Grabs?
Q: Why did Apple focus on redesigning their operating systems now?
Apple aims to unify the user experience across its devices and respond to the growing popularity of the iPad, which is being used more for productivity tasks.
#103: Are Silicon Valley’s Mega-Deals Just Talent Grabs?
Q: What does the $14.8 billion investment in Scale AI signal about the competition in the tech industry?
It indicates a significant escalation in the battle for AI talent and resources among major tech companies, as they strive to position themselves in a rapidly evolving landscape where expertise is at a premium.
#95: OpenAI’s Social Network & Figma’s Potential IPO
Q: Is the world in need of another social network?
Yes, some believe there is room for innovation beyond existing platforms.
#95: OpenAI’s Social Network & Figma’s Potential IPO
Q: What is the current state of the AI venture landscape?
Currently, there is hype around AI, with many companies incorrectly marketed as AI firms despite not being fundamentally AI companies.

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A vibrant group of friends, consisting of seasoned tech veterans, engages in animated discussions that span a wide range of topics, primarily focusing on the intersection of technology and society. The conversations are marked by a blend of humor and insight, touching on major themes such as innovation in Silicon Valley, the evolving landscape of venture capital, and the implications of AI on businesses and daily life. The interactions not only reflect their intimate familiarity with the tech world but also present personal anecdotes that add relatability and depth to technical discussions. Unique content often revolves around pressing industry news and humorous takes on popular culture, making it both entertaining and informative for liste... more

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