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The Menninger Clinic’s Mind Dive podcast is a twice-monthly exploration of mental health topics from the professional’s perspective, including the dilemmas clinicians face in their practice. Hosts Dr. Bob Boland and Dr. Kerry Horrell dive into the complexities of mental health care including the latest research and other topical developments through lively discourse with distinguished colleagues ... more

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When a child develops an eating disorder, food becomes the battlefield, but the deeper struggle is often about fear, control, shame, and the need to feel understood. We sit down with Dr. Tom Wooldridge, board-certified psychologist, psychoanalyst, an... more

If you have ever wondered why therapy that feels life-changing can be so hard to find and so hard to afford, this conversation puts real numbers and real power dynamics on the table. We sit down with Dr. Linda Michaels, licensed psychologist, co-foun... more

TikTok can make autism and ADHD feel instantly recognizable, but recognition is not diagnosis. We sit down with Dr Alton Bozeman, Director of the Menninger Assessment Center, to separate viral “signs” from the clinical reality of neurodevelopmental d... more

This episode dives into history with best-selling author Jack El-Hai to follow psychiatrist Douglas Kelley from wartime trauma work to the Nuremberg prison cells where he tested infamous Nazi defendants and walked away with a conclusion that still ch... more

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Linda Michaels
Licensed psychologist; co-founder of the Psychotherapy Action Network
Psychotherapy Action Network
Episode: Episode 79: Championing Depth Therapy vs Quick Fixes
Dr. Alton Bozeman
Director of the Menninger Assessment Clinic; psychologist specializing in pediatric neuropsychology
Menninger Clinic
Episode: Episode 78: Dispelling Myths about Autism and ADHD
Jack El-Hai
Writer and journalist, New York Times bestselling author of The Nazi and the Psychiatrist
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Episode: Episode 77: The Psychiatrist Who Explored Nazi Minds
Dr. Jon Allen
Former clinician at the Menninger Clinic with over 40 years of experience, focusing on trauma and therapeutic relationships.
Menninger Clinic, Baylor College of Medicine
Episode: Episode 74: The Importance of Therapeutic Relationships
Dr. John Abramowitz
An internationally recognized expert on OCD and anxiety disorders, and a professor of psychology and neuroscience at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill.
University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill
Episode: Episode 73: Living Well With OCD
Dr. Pedro Julnes
A psychiatrist based in Houston, Texas, who serves military veterans and is an assistant professor of psychiatry at Baylor College of Medicine.
Michael E. DeBakey VA Medical Center
Episode: Episode 72: Understanding Lone Actor Violence
Dr. Ellen Astrachan-Fletcher
A nationally recognized expert in DBT and family-based therapy, with over 30 years of clinical experience.
EAF ReCenter; Northwestern University
Episode: Episode 71: Understanding Over-Controlled and Under-Controlled Personalities
Dr. Adrian Lira
Bilingual licensed professional counselor supervisor and national certified counselor
Menninger Clinic
Episode: Episode 70: Rethinking Suicidality Treatment
Dr. Patricia Daza
Senior psychologist and Director of Psychological Services
Menninger Clinic
Episode: Episode 70: Rethinking Suicidality Treatment

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Dr. Bob Boland
Host on Mind Dive; clinician at The Menninger Clinic with a focus on clinical psychology and assessment.
Dr. Kerry Horrell
Co-host on Mind Dive; clinician with clinical and scholarly focus in mental health.

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4.9 out of 5 stars from 40 ratings
  • Amazing resource

    The mind dive podcast has been so influential to my recent learning and development. The hosts are easy to listen to and the content is a really great blend of research, reflection, and application. Such a trusted resource!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    MrsClaney
    United States2 years ago
  • Informative and trustworthy

    This podcast has attracted some very high profile leaders in all areas of mental health. The hosts are warm professionals with a message tailored to professionals but accessible to lay people.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    2daylooksgood
    United States4 years ago
  • Great conversations from the brightest in mental health

    Mind Dive offers an inside look into the dilemmas mental health clinicians face every day, offering an incredible resource to learning and practicing professionals all across the field.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    lux400
    United States4 years ago

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Episode 76: Can AI Play A Role in Care?
Q: What advice would you give to clinicians who want to start using AI but haven't yet?
Start small with one time-saving task, understand its limits, protect patient privacy, and keep clinical judgment front and center; treat AI as a tool to enhance care, not replace it.
Episode 76: Can AI Play A Role in Care?
Q: What is the difference between Ambient AI and ChatGPT in a clinical setting?
Ambient AI focuses on passive note-taking from real-world conversations, while ChatGPT provides interactive general support and patient-facing guidance; both play distinct roles and should operate under clinician supervision to avoid overstepping professional boundaries.
Episode 76: Can AI Play A Role in Care?
Q: What about privacy and safety—how should clinicians handle HIPAA and GDPR when using AI in care?
Clinicians should ensure AI tools comply with applicable privacy laws, do not store or mishandle protected health information, be transparent with patients about data usage, and maintain human oversight as the final decision-maker for care.
Episode 76: Can AI Play A Role in Care?
Q: From your perspective, what are the most meaningful ways AI is currently being used in mental health care, and what is still more hype than reality?
AI is meaningfully expanding access through screening, self-guided strategies, and triage, while remaining a supportive tool rather than replacing human therapy. It can streamline tasks like documentation and provide ideas for interventions, but must not override clinician judgment or patient safety.
Episode 75 (Rewind): Trust and Building Real Bonds in Therapy with Dr. Jon Allen
Q: Can you tell us how you got interested in trust and why you think it's crucial to psychotherapy?
Dr. Allen discusses his long-standing focus on relational trauma, the development of trust from early life, and how trust operates as both a process and an outcome in therapy, with an emphasis on the need for the therapeutic relationship to foster broader trust beyond the session.

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What is Mind Dive about and what kind of topics does it cover?

Professional, research-driven discussions on mental health care, psychotherapy, and related fields are explored through interviews with clinicians, researchers, and occasional expert guests. Episodes cover a broad range of topics—from neurodevelopmental assessment and OCD to trauma, perinatal mental health, and the role of technology in care—grounded in clinical practice, ethics, and real-world applications. A hallmark is thoughtful moderation by two seasoned clinicians, with a focus on nuance, evidence, and practical implications for treatment, policy, and diagnosis. Noteworthy is the consistent engagement with interdisciplinary guests, including researchers, clinicians, historians, and even AI demonstrations, which provides a well-rounded... more

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1. Linda Michaels
2. Dr. Alton Bozeman
3. Jack El-Hai
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5. Dr. John Abramowitz
6. Dr. Pedro Julnes
7. Dr. Ellen Astrachan-Fletcher
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