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Marketing Against The Grain

Hubspot Media
Hubspot
Marketing
AI Tools
Content Creation
Openai
Marketing Strategies
Chatgpt
Artificial Intelligence
Marketing Automation
AI Marketing
Content Marketing
AI Search
Claude AI
Google
Claude
Zapier
B2B Marketing
Influencer Marketing
SEO
Productivity

Kipp Bodnar (HubSpot’s CMO) and Kieran Flanagan (Hubspot's SVP of Marketing), lead you down the rabbit hole of marketing trends, growth tactics and innovation. On the way you’ll pick up undiscovered strategies to give you that slight edge for success. These are not your typical twitter thread regurgitated marketing tactics that everyone is doing. These are new methods, with unfiltered examination ... more

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Latest Episodes

Paid Ads Rebuild: 3 Workflows + 8 Prompts to Fix What AI Broke: clickhubspot.com/jgvk

Ep. 442

50% of Google searches now result in zero clicks, how does that affect your 2027 ad budget?

Kipp dives into how AI has completely disrupted the p... more

Map your media spend with our full-funnel audit template: clickhubspot.com/ckev

Ep. 441

Distribution is undefeated—and if you’re not building systems to measure real sales impact, you don’t have a business.

Kipp and guest Benoit Vatere (Li... more

Weekly AI Content Ideation System: clickhubspot.com/rtjed

Ep. 440

Are you still stuck regurgitating the same content ideas that everyone else is using?

Kieran dives into the secrets behind building a world-class AI content ideation system ... more

Anti-AI Slop Checklist: clickhubspot.com/olkw

Ep. 439

Are you just passing AI-generated slop back and forth at work?

Kipp and guest Hilary Gridley (founder of the newsletter Writerbuilder) dive into how teams can escape the AI slop doom lo... more

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Hosts

Kipp Bodnar
Host of Marketing Against The Grain; HubSpot Chief Marketing Officer
Kieran Flanagan
Host of Marketing Against The Grain; HubSpot Senior Vice President of Marketing

Reviews

4.7 out of 5 stars from 765 ratings
  • Loved the episode on Claude

    Learning so much from the Claude episode with the code workflow! Fascinating!!!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    beccabooker
    United States2 months ago
  • Superficial

    I just listened to an episode where data analyst said to doublecheck your work and all the numbers that AI gives you, and the host praised her saying something along the lines of “you just gave people 10 years of work experience“ — I’m disappointed. If this is the future that AI is bringing us, I want no part of it. I’ve listened to this podcast for a couple years often and on, and I have found it superficial most of the time, with just occasional nuggets of useful information. I will be moving ... more

    Apple Podcasts
    4
    Nikki4m
    United States2 months ago
  • Acronym soup & nothing but a plug for hubspot

    This show has turned into “throw against the wall and see what sticks” type podcast. Every episode is “tip” that is really a feature of hubspot. 😔

    Apple Podcasts
    2
    BryanMully
    United States3 months ago
  • The perfect podcast for a marketing, director, manager, or CMO

    I worked for a personal injury law firm in Los Angeles. We are constantly looking at new ways to market the firm, and I personally am looking for new skill sets. This podcast is the perfect way to keep up with the new updates in the marketing world during my long commute.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Gustavomun3455
    United States5 months ago
  • Marketing Against the Grain has become a weekly staple for me, especially because it releases multiple times a week and stays consistently useful. Kip and Kieran zoom out to what’s possible with AI, but they don’t treat it like a shiny toy; there’s a real ethical lens in the mix (which matters when the ground is shifting under our feet with LLMs and advanced tech). The best part? They take massive, complex concepts, often with brilliant guests, and distil them into clear, practical actions.

    Podcast Addict
    5
    VideoConfidence
    8 months ago

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Fans value candid, practical frameworks over generic marketing platitudes.
Audience often cites value for senior marketers seeking fresh growth ideas.
Listeners appreciate data-driven discussions and case studies from real brands.
Positive reception exists for the show's long-form, deep-dive format with strong host chemistry.
Overall sentiment is highly positive with calls for ongoing exploration of emerging tools.
Listener feedback frequently highlights actionable AI marketing insights and practical demos.
A few reviews caution that heavy AI focus can feel repetitive or overly technical for some listeners.
Some listeners desire broader production polish and more varied topics beyond core AI marketing themes.
Fans note high-quality guests and fast-paced, implementable content.

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How 1 Human + AI Replaced a 15-Person RevOps Team
Q: Can you introduce Proplexity Computer and explain why it's powerful in terms of running a RevOps operation?
Nate explains that Proplexity Computer is a fully agentic, multi-model orchestrator that can handle end-to-end work across RevOps workflows, enabling one person to manage what previously required a larger team, with the system prompting, integrating, and coordinating multiple AI models. This enables faster decision-making, outreach, and coordination across CRM and events.
Automate Boring Tasks With Codex & Claude Code in X Minutes
Q: How has building these workflows changed your ability to do podcasting and the core impact or upside?
Peter describes not doing the work alone anymore and having a reliable partner to co-create thumbnails, angles, and outlines. The system reduces manual copy-paste, speeds up production, and frees mental bandwidth for higher-level thinking and growth.
Automate Boring Tasks With Codex & Claude Code in X Minutes
Q: Are you a recent convert to Codex and Claude Projects, and why did you migrate to Codex for these systems?
Peter explains that Codex offers practical workflow automation and browser-based capabilities that exceed simple chat interfaces, enabling more automated and productive pipelines. He contrasts Codex with ChatGPT/Claude for maintaining long-running, structured processes and highlights the value of building skills and workflows rather than just doing one-off tasks.
Google Data Analyst Shares Her $300k/year Codex Workflow
Q: How should one handle missing data or data quality issues when using AI for analysis?
Treat data quality as a prerequisite: explicitly check for missing values, clean and normalize data, and avoid assuming the data is perfect; AI can help but human oversight is essential to prevent erroneous conclusions.
Google Data Analyst Shares Her $300k/year Codex Workflow
Q: Do you have a robust data set here?
Yes, Codex produced a structured analysis and a leadership deck from the provided cohort data, but users should validate results and ensure the dataset is appropriate and sufficiently large for statistical significance.

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What is Marketing Against The Grain about and what kind of topics does it cover?

A fast-paced, idea-rich show that explores marketing trends, growth tactics, and cutting-edge tech with two seasoned HubSpot marketing leaders at the helm. Episodes consistently center on AI-driven marketing, search and visibility in AI-powered ecosystems, and practical, hands-on workflows that marketers can deploy—from answer engines and real-time voice experiences to multi-tool AI pipelines for content and social. Highlights include live demonstrations, tool walkthroughs, and frameworks that push beyond traditional tips, often featuring high-profile guests or industry practitioners to shed light on tangible impact. The format tends to blend strategic thinking with concrete, actionable steps, making it valuable for growth-focused marketers... more

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