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Leaders Lead Even When It Hurts

Tony Taylor
Leadership
Mental Health
Anxiety
Entrepreneurship
Public Speaking
Thurston County
Imposter Syndrome
Psychedelic Healing
Addiction
Meditation
Personal Development
Grief
Dyslexia
Self-Improvement
Racism
Education
Resilience
Digital Marketing
Hypnosis
Healing

Leaders Lead Even When It Hurts is a show about the real moments that shape us. Every week Tony Taylor sits with people who have lived through something hard and came out changed. Caregivers, creators, entrepreneurs, survivors. People in the messy middle who kept going even when it hurt. These conversations are raw, honest, and unscripted. We talk about the moments that broke you open, the choices... more

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Rachel Grant
Thurston County Commissioner
Thurston County
Episode: Thurston County Commissioner Rachel Grant’s Story of Recovery, Redemption, and Second Chances
Maren Turner
City Councilmember for Lacey (newly seated)
City of Lacey
Episode: Open Lacey City Council Seat: What the Job Really Takes | Maren Turner
Chris Pettit
Candidate for Thurston Public Utility District Commissioner, District 3
Thurston County (PUD)
Episode: Running for Thurston PUD Commissioner, District 3 | Christopher L. Pettit
Catherine Hildebrand
Congressional candidate, Washington state
Independent candidate in 2026 race for Congress (District 1)
Episode: Congressional Candidate Catherine Hildebrand: “I’m Going to Run Again”
Ashley Fedan
Candidate for Washington State House 11th Legislative District; nurse anesthetist
Candidate, Washington State House 11th Legislative District
Episode: Ashley Fedan Running for Washington State House | On The Record
Michelle Gipson
Candidate for Thurston County Commissioner
Community leader; former Thurston County School Board member
Episode: On the Record: Running for Thurston County Commissioner | Michelle Gipson
Derek Sanders
Thurston County Sheriff, 24th Sheriff of Thurston County
Thurston County Sheriff's Office
Episode: On the Record™: Thurston County Sheriff Derek Sanders
Kevin Burton-Crow
Candidate for Thurston County Sheriff
Campaign for Thurston County Sheriff
Episode: On the Record™: Running for Thurston County Sheriff | Kevin Burton-Crow
Mark Hodgson
Candidate for state representative, 24th Legislative District
Candidate, 24th Legislative District
Episode: On the Record™ Running for State Representative, 24th Legislative District | Mark Hodgson

Host

Tony Taylor
Host of Leaders Lead Even When It Hurts, with a focus on authentic leadership and candid conversations.

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 90 ratings
  • Leaders Lead is Amazing

    I love this podcast! The host is amazing! It’s really helping get through life right now. Life has been hard. This podcast is amazing and different in all the right ways! The interviews are real, intriguing, entertaining, funny and full of life stories and lessons. Tony is authentic! You can tell he genuinely cares about his guests and what his audience is able to take away. I never miss an episode and neither should you!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Dr. Leanne J
    United States7 months ago
  • Everyone Leads Someone!

    I hope the listeners enjoy the podcast as much as I enjoyed being on it! Tony asks great questions and gets to the heart of the matter quickly to help all of us lead from within!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Barbara Hemphill
    United States8 months ago
  • This show gives us hope

    Live isn’t always easy, but even in hard times, you can’t forget that things will get better. Tony does an amazing job surfacing stories of challenging times and what the other side looks like. A must listen!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    maj8614
    United States8 months ago
  • Leadership Without the Shortcut

    Leaders Lead Even When It Hurts is a grounded, honest look at leadership that doesn’t sugarcoat the hard parts. It focuses on integrity, accountability, and the quiet, uncomfortable decisions leaders have to make when the right choice isn’t the easy one. Practical, reflective, and refreshingly real—this is a strong listen for anyone who leads people and actually cares about doing it well.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    kittylistens
    United States8 months ago
  • Great advice

    I really appreciated the episode on surviving betrayal. It is something I have dealt with before, but didn't know how to overcome. This episode gave me a lot of pointers and advice for how to deal with these situations in the future.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    FindingHopeAfterLoss
    United States8 months ago

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Listeners praise Tony's authenticity and the heart put into interviews.
Guests are described as real and relatable, with practical leadership takeaways.
Feedback highlights the value of leadership lessons and personal growth stories.
Show is seen as honest and grounded, avoiding sugarcoating.

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Talking Points

Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

Open Lacey City Council Seat: What the Job Really Takes | Maren Turner
Q: What would you want from a vacancy seatmate in the upcoming year?
Turner emphasizes the need for genuine care for the city, an open mind, understanding of the council role, and a commitment to the process and to serving Lacey rather than pursuing personal agendas.
Open Lacey City Council Seat: What the Job Really Takes | Maren Turner
Q: What does the time commitment look like for a new council member?
The guest describes weekly meetings, work sessions, committee responsibilities, and significant time spent on reading packets, preparing, and responding to constituents, noting it can be a part-time level of effort but demanding depending on the packet and assignments.
Running for Thurston PUD Commissioner, District 3 | Christopher L. Pettit
Q: What decisions would you have the power to make if elected?
He emphasized rate setting, governance oversight, and the ability to pursue state and federal funding to support improvements, with a focus on affordable and reliable service, regional collaboration, and accountability.
Running for Thurston PUD Commissioner, District 3 | Christopher L. Pettit
Q: Why run for office? Why Thurston PUD? Why now?
The candidate saw an opportunity to apply his decades of experience in water governance to oversee a utility that touches many aspects of everyday life, from affordability to reliability, and to bring oversight and regional coordination to Thurston County's water and environmental needs.
On the Record™: Running for Thurston County Sheriff | Kevin Burton-Crow
Q: What is your leadership style, and how would it change if you were elected?
A servant-leadership approach emphasizing taking care of people, standard-setting, and institutional continuity over individual leadership; commitment to verifiable data and accreditation.

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This show centers on real, often difficult leadership moments—caregivers, entrepreneurs, and public servants share how hardship reshaped their paths, offering candid lessons on resilience, accountability, and service. Episodes frequently explore leadership under pressure, governance, public safety, healthcare, and burnout, always with practical takeaways for listeners aiming to lead with integrity and empathy. A notable strength is the host's unfiltered style, which tends to attract guests with diverse public-facing roles and a bias toward service over self-promotion, making it valuable for aspiring leaders and professionals seeking actionable mindset shifts and real-world leadership stories.

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Recent guests on Leaders Lead Even When It Hurts include:

1. Rachel Grant
2. Maren Turner
3. Chris Pettit
4. Catherine Hildebrand
5. Ashley Fedan
6. Michelle Gipson
7. Derek Sanders
8. Kevin Burton-Crow

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