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Lawyer 2 Lawyer is an award-winning podcast covering relevant, contemporary news from a legal perspective. Host J. Craig Williams invites industry professionals to examine current events and recent rulings in discussions that raise contemplative questions for those involved in the legal industry. Launched in 2005, Lawyer 2 Lawyer is one of the longest-running podcasts on the Internet.

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President Trump recently banned three major media outlets from the White House including CNN, MS NOW, and Politico, stating that these journalists “threatened national security and/or spread falsehoods” through their coverage. This led to litigation... more

Flock Safety is a surveillance technology company that manufactures cameras and automated license plate readers used by law enforcement, neighborhoods, and businesses to deter crime, respond to emergencies, and investigate safety incidents. “Flock... more

As we approach the midterm elections, we wanted to spend this episode reviewing the most controversial ways that the current Administration has interacted with the law. We’ve had no shortage of choices to pick from, but we’ve narrowed it down to the ... more

Naturalized citizens have served as federal judges, including as Justices of our Supreme Court, for more than two centuries, many with great distinction. Recently Representative Nancy Mace introduced a joint resolution calling for an amendment to our... more

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Katie Kinsey
Chief of Staff and Tech Policy Council at the Policing Project, NYU School of Law
Policing Project, NYU School of Law
Episode: Flock Cameras: Use, Misuse, Privacy, & the Impact on Citizens
Michael R. Ulrich
Professor, public health and law
Boston University (as discussed)
Episode: The Top Seven Legal Issues of the Current Administration
Stephen D. Schwinn
Professor of law
University of Illinois Chicago School of Law
Episode: The Top Seven Legal Issues of the Current Administration
Raj Bala
Attorney and professor
University/Legal academia
Episode: The Top Seven Legal Issues of the Current Administration
Judge Jeremy Fogel
Former United States District Court Judge; Executive Director of the Berkeley Judicial Institute
Berkeley Law / Berkeley Judicial Institute
Episode: Federal Judges: The Birthplace Controversy, the Constitution, and the Fight Against Rhetoric
Michael Ulrich
Assistant Professor at Boston University School of Public Health and School of Law
Boston University
Episode: RFK Jr. and Public Health: Vaccine Policy, Outbreaks, and Funding Cuts
Lauren Stiller Rikleen
Executive Director of Lawyers Defending American Democracy
Lawyers Defending American Democracy (LDAD)
Episode: Lawyers: Defending the Constitution & Fighting for our Democracy
Steven Schwinn
Professor of Law at the University of Illinois Chicago School of Law
UIC School of Law
Episode: The Summer of SCOTUS: Big Decisions & Impact
Paul Finkelman
Legal Historian and Emeritus Professor
Albany Law School
Episode: Birthright Citizenship, a SCOTUS Ruling, & the Impact on Immigration Policy

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J. Craig Williams
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Reviews

4.3 out of 5 stars from 202 ratings
  • Pure unadulterated trash

    100% left wing propaganda. They don’t even pretend to be unbiased. These guys are on the wrong side of the law and history. They are out of touch w society.

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    Tool4daman
    United Statesa year ago
  • Only Opinions, No Legal Analysis

    This podcast used to be focused on explaining legal concepts and diving into the legal implications of various topics. Now it is purely opinion and conjecture. There is no fact-based analysis, no legal analysis; there is only opinions, and those opinions are extremely biased with no counterarguments or opposing viewpoints. If you want real fact-based and legal analysis, go check out Unbiased by Jordan Berman.

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    Dell_G_
    United States2 years ago
  • Interesting

    This is a must-listen for lawyers and paralegals interested in current events!

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    DoloresRachel
    United States2 years ago
  • Not what it once was

    I subscribed during law school (circa 2018) and found the discussions highly relevant to my studies and conversations in class and with classmates; the guests were civil, highly knowledgeable, and represented both sides of the aisle well on issues that divide our country and the hosts guided the discussions well. However, in the last year or two, the exchange between what used to be two opposing guest lawyers has dwindled to barely a whisper with generally only one viewpoint shared these days. I... more

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    Davethefree
    United States3 years ago
  • Seeking Balance: A Critical Review of 'Lawyer 2 Lawyer' Podcast's Approach to Political Discourse

    Subject: Review of "Lawyer 2 Lawyer" Podcast: A Call for Balanced Discourse

    In today's world, political discourse is notably polarized. Yet, within the legal community, which is perceived to have a liberal inclination, I have often admired the majority of attorneys for their commitment to maintaining objectivity in discussions. This dedication to impartiality generally extends to legal podcasts, which typically strive to present a balanced exploration of diverse viewpoints.

    However, "Lawyer 2 ... more

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    TravelingFootballDad
    United States3 years ago

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Flock Cameras: Use, Misuse, Privacy, & the Impact on Citizens
Q: What are the legal protections around this technology, particularly the Fourth Amendment?
The guest explains that the Fourth Amendment protections are evolving; the relevant standard is that access to location information generally requires a warrant supported by probable cause, and there is advocacy for states to enact laws mandating warrants for ALPR data usage while the Supreme Court considers broader doctrines.
Flock Cameras: Use, Misuse, Privacy, & the Impact on Citizens
Q: Let's start off by discussing Flock cameras and their uses. What are they? Where are they? And what are they doing?
Flock makes surveillance tech including automated license plate readers that capture vehicle data (license plates, make/model, sometimes features like dents or bumper stickers) as cars pass by; images are timestamped, stored, and searchable against lists for investigative purposes. The system is widespread and part of a broader push for accountability and governance.
RFK Jr. and Public Health: Vaccine Policy, Outbreaks, and Funding Cuts
Q: Michael, how are scientists and workers inside the CDC, the FDA and Health and Human Services reacting?
Ulrich describes morale declines, early firings or forced departures, and a brain drain of senior experts, leading to weaker institutional knowledge and longer-term training challenges.
RFK Jr. and Public Health: Vaccine Policy, Outbreaks, and Funding Cuts
Q: What does this do in terms of lab testing and immunization and all of the services that are to tend to be available vaccinations on the ground?
Ulrich notes that funding cuts translate into fewer personnel, limited vaccine distribution capacity, and greater reliance on overextended healthcare systems, potentially reducing access to vaccines and testing.
RFK Jr. and Public Health: Vaccine Policy, Outbreaks, and Funding Cuts
Q: Well, Michael, give us a kind of state of the union address really about a short one, about what's going on with public health these days.
Ulrich explains that public health is in crisis due to funding cuts, leadership questions, and gaps in research and evidence that reshape how health policies are made, with major consequences for staffing, research, and population health.

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What is Lawyer 2 Lawyer about and what kind of topics does it cover?

Two lawyers and policy experts regularly dissect current legal events, court rulings, and governance issues from a practical, issue-focused angle. Episodes consistently center on constitutional rights, judiciary independence, election law, and public policy, often featuring high-profile guests such as judges, law professors, and historians who provide historical context and expert analysis. The show is known for long-form conversations that blend legal theory with real-world implications, cross-promotion for related legal marketing content, and a willingness to explore controversial topics with nuance. This mix makes it a go-to for lawyers, policymakers, and academics seeking detailed legal analysis tied to today's headlines, with occasiona... more

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7. Lauren Stiller Rikleen
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