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I Shouldn't Say This, But...

Katy Leeson
Imposter Syndrome
Leadership
Social Chain
Manchester
Personal Branding
Tedx Trafford
Entrepreneurship
Personal Brand
HR Star
Public Speaking
BBC Radio 4
We Are the Allies
AI In Marketing
Personal Values
Work-Life Blend
Sleep Scores
Culture In Startups
Loneliness In Leadership
Freelancers
Hairdressing

Being a leader can be genuinely lonely. I Shouldn't Say This, But… exists because of that.

Hosted by Katy Leeson, former MD of Social Chain, now founder of Courageous, this is the podcast for leaders and founders who want the conversations they can't seem to have anywhere else. The real ones. About doubt, people, culture, hard decisions, and what building something actually costs you.

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Consider this a proper catch-up from the sofa at Mollies, and this time I’ve brought someone new to meet you all.

Introducing Isi who is now running my social media! She follows me round with a camera, keeps me grounded and won’t let me eat a crois... more

This week is Baby Loss Awareness Week, so I'm re-sharing a conversation that means a lot to me.

Seven years ago, shortly after my own miscarriage, I sat down with Ruth Bender Atik. She was National Director of what was then the Miscarriage Associati... more

A TED talk was on my vision board for this year. So when I was asked to speak at TEDx Trafford this November, I was thrilled, but when I started the process I was surprised by just what it takes to get on that stage.

So for this week's episode, I'm ... more

18 episodes into series 6, and I don't know where the time's gone! This week, to celebrate, I've pulled together my favourite moments from my guests this series. If you'd like to watch any of the episodes in full, scroll down for the links.

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Recent Guests

Ruth Bender Atik
National Director, Miscarriage Association
Miscarriage Association
Episode: S6 Ep20: 7 Years Later: Re-Visiting My Miscarriage Story | Baby Loss Awareness Week
Martina Witter
Curator of TEDx Trafford
TEDx Trafford (CIC)
Episode: S6 Ep19: Inside The TEDx Framework: 8 to 18 Minutes to Change A Life | Martina Witter
Liberty Mills
Fertility and autoimmune coach
Independent health expert
Episode: S6 Ep15: They Told Me I Was Barren at 43. Here's How I Got Pregnant Naturally at 44 | Liberty Mills
Heather Elkington
Founder of Fresh Leadership World and Custard, leadership trainer
Fresh Leadership World; Custard
Episode: S6 Ep13: Why "Being Nice" Is Actually the Coward's Way Out. From the Harrods shop floor to founder: Heather Elkington
Sacha Lord
Hospitality and events entrepreneur; founder of Warehouse Project, Sankeys, Part Life, Parklife
Independent entrepreneur; Manchester nightlife figure
Episode: S6 Ep11: The Government Wiped Out 124,000 Jobs. I Watched It Happen | Sacha Lord
Ash Jones
Personal branding expert, founder of Ingo Company, former Great Influence executive
Ingo Company; Great Influence
Episode: S6 Ep10: Your Leadership Team's Silence Is Costing You £17.8 Million a Year | Ash Jones
Jade Reilly
Dietitian and fitness expert with NHS background
National Health Service (NHS)
Episode: S6 Ep7: Hustle Culture Is Lying To Women. The NHS Dietician's Truth About Hormones, Food & Burnout
Sarah Louise Keane
Hairdresser, educator, founder of Host
SLK / Host
Episode: S6 Ep6: "I've had death threats...over hair" The reality of building a personal brand online with Sarah Louise Keane
Kelly Tucker
Founder of HR Star, HR expert
HR Star
Episode: S6 Ep3: Your People Are Your Biggest P&L Line, So Why Are You Ignoring Them? With Kelly Tucker

Host

Katy Leeson
Host of the show; founder of Courageous; former MD of Social Chain; leads candid conversations with leaders and founders.

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 224 ratings
  • Brilliant topics and practical advice

    New to this podcast today - catching up on the burnout episode - but will definitely be listening to the back catalogue. Really informative and useful advice.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    loveapoddy
    United Kingdom6 years ago
  • Really helpful

    I found your episode on procrastination very helpful (and enjoyable too!) Thanks :)

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    gridrunner
    United Kingdom6 years ago
  • I shouldn’t rate this a 1 star,but...

    Guys, don’t have a heart attack! I’ll change this back, but I think it’ll be worth taking a dive in to online reviews and the pros and cons about them e.g Trust Pilot, Feefo and other online review sites like Trip Advisor and Yelp!

    (Story example: The Shed in East Dulwich)

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    Kulvir

    2018 Edit: Changed to 5 star, I like the podcast and they’ve mentioned that they’d cover review sites, but the 1 star rating affects their ranking algorithm. I’m looking forward to hearing the reviews episode i... more

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    Kulvir L
    United Kingdom6 years ago
  • Utter honesty and reassurance

    This podcast talks about real issues, real situations, real reactions and real feelings.

    It really resonated with me for a number of reasons but especially as I have been having a very tough time recently and just trying to figure everything out. Thank you!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    SarahMona
    United Kingdom6 years ago
  • What is this?

    I thought this sounded like an interesting business podcast. But the episode that I listened to seemed to be a random meander that didn’t have much context. Maybe it is just for employees of a specific biz. It seems to be a ramble. Maybe I just got a bad episode but I’m not willing to invest more of my time in hopes that there’s more substance elsewhere.

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    Neb688
    United States6 years ago

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Listeners praise the show's honesty, practicality, and relatable leadership stories.
Fans value actionable insights on personal branding, burnout, and building cultures in growth environments.

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S6 Ep20: 7 Years Later: Re-Visiting My Miscarriage Story | Baby Loss Awareness Week
Q: So do you want to talk about what Simply Say is?
Simply Say was developed to encourage open discussions about miscarriage, reduce taboo, and provide practical cards and resources that acknowledge both the person experiencing loss and those offering support.
S6 Ep19: Inside The TEDx Framework: 8 to 18 Minutes to Change A Life | Martina Witter
Q: What are the TEDx guidelines and why are they important?
The guidelines require the idea to be novel, the talk to be eight to eighteen minutes, and the content to be scientifically grounded with no political or promotional references; the process ensures quality and credibility of the talks.
S6 Ep19: Inside The TEDx Framework: 8 to 18 Minutes to Change A Life | Martina Witter
Q: How did you come up with the theme for TEDx Trafford?
Martina explains that she framed the theme around future-proofing humans by design, drawing on current world changes like AI, and she used insights from psychology and well-being to ensure it remains meaningful and inclusive.
S6 Ep17: How To Overcome A Fear of Public Speaking (When It Scares You More Than Death)
Q: How long have you been public speaking and how did you get into it?
I've been public speaking for about 10 years; I started by building a personal brand and gave talks that connected to my lived experiences and research, gradually expanding into topics like imposter syndrome and intergenerational work.
S6 Ep15: They Told Me I Was Barren at 43. Here's How I Got Pregnant Naturally at 44 | Liberty Mills
Q: What did you do to transform your health and pursue natural pregnancy, and what are the first steps you recommend to someone considering similar changes?
She emphasizes testing DNA to tailor diet and supplements, addressing gut health, reducing environmental toxins, and prioritizing sleep and stress management as foundational steps before attempting fertility interventions.

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This show concentrates on leadership, entrepreneurship, and workplace culture through candid, no-nonsense conversations with founders, CEOs, and industry leaders. Episodes balance personal stories—burnout, loneliness in leadership, and values—with practical lessons on brand building, team dynamics, and navigating high-stakes decisions. A standout is the willingness to tackle tough topics openly, from imposter syndrome to freelancer ecosystems, often featuring guests who illustrate real-world paths to sustainable growth. Listeners seeking honest perspectives on the costs and challenges of leading a business will likely find this series compelling and actionable.

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