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It Shouldn't Be This Hard

Phil White & Heidi Schoeneck
Sustainability
Climate Change
Cancel Culture
Plastic Pollution
Social Impact
Journalism
Food Waste
COP
Universal Flourishing
Poverty
Business Challenges
Social Innovation
Conscious Leadership
Hyperlocal Journalism
Media Freedom
Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion
Conscious Capitalism
Microsoft
Leadership
Social Justice

The podcast that dives deep into the messy, meaningful work of responsible business and conscious leadership. Learn more at: grounded.world/itshouldntbethishard.

Hosted by Phil White and Heidi Schoeneck, co-founders of Grounded – and joined by Gaia, their brilliantly provocative AI sidekick – this show explores what it really takes to drive change from the inside out.

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Latest Episodes

People don’t want to “be sustainable”... and Starbucks learned that the hard way. In this episode of  It Shouldn’t Be This Hard, we learn from Amelia Landers, VP of Innovation at Starbucks, for a rare inside look at how one of the world’s most iconic... more

What happens the day after Earth Day?

In this episode of It Shouldn’t Be This Hard, we sit down with Kathleen Rogers, President of EarthDay.org, the force behind one of the most iconic and enduring movements on the planet. 

This episode is a master... more

Can a company built on cigarettes build a future without them?

In this episode of It Shouldn’t Be This Hard, we sit down with Jennifer Motles, Chief Sustainability Officer at Philip Morris International, to explore what it takes to transform one of ... more

Brewing Change: How BIGGBY Coffee Is Using Regenerative Agriculture to Redefine Capitalism

Coffee connects us all — but what if it could heal the planet too?

In this episode of It Shouldn’t Be This Hard, we sit down with Bob and Michelle Fish, the ... more

Rethinking Leadership for Universal Flourishing: Karimah Hudda on Systems Change, Courage, and Impact

Leadership is hard. Leading with impact? Even harder.

In this episode of It Shouldn’t Be This Hard, co-hosts Heidi Schoeneck and Phil White sit do... more

Cancel culture is holding us back from climate action.

This week on It Shouldn’t Be This Hard, our co-hosts, Heidi Schoeneck and Phil White, speak to Jenny Morgan, author of Cancel Culture and Climate, to understand how shame, purity tests, and the ... more

Welcome back to It Shouldn’t Be This Hard — the podcast where we dig into sustainability, purpose, and the messy, human side of making change… because the world desperately needs more of it.

This week, our co-hosts Heidi Schoeneck and Phil White are... more

Welcome back to It Shouldn’t Be This Hard — the podcast where we dig into sustainability, purpose, and the messy, human side of making change… because the world desperately needs more of it.

In this episode, we’re joined by the brilliant Hilary Keat... more

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Karimah Hudda
Systems Change Catalyst and founder of Illumin Earth
Illumin Earth
Episode: Universal Flourishing Shouldn’t Be This Hard | Karimah Hudda
Jenny Morgan
Author of Climate, Cancel Culture
Episode: Cancel Culture in Climate | Jenny Morgan
Hilary Keates
Expert in sustainability and food waste management.
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Episode: Fighting Food Waste Shouldn’t Be This Hard | Hilary Keates
Kathy Baird
Former Chief Communications Officer at The Washington Post with experience in purpose-driven communications.
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Episode: Why Is It So Hard to Do the Right Things? (Trailer Episode)

Hosts

Phil White
Co-founder of Grounded, leading discussions on responsible business and conscious leadership.
Heidi Schoeneck
Co-founder of Grounded, engaging in meaningful conversations about business ethics and social impact.

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Fair Price For Coffee Shouldn’t Be This Hard | Bob & Michelle Fish
Q: Is your partnership part of building a life you love?
Yes, it allows us to combine personal and professional lives seamlessly, enriching both our work and our marriage.
Fair Price For Coffee Shouldn’t Be This Hard | Bob & Michelle Fish
Q: What's it like working with your husband?
It's amazing. There's a shorthand in communication, and we share a purpose, which strengthens our partnership.
Universal Flourishing Shouldn’t Be This Hard | Karimah Hudda
Q: What's been the hardest part when you look back?
Karimah reflected on the challenges of working with street children and the barriers they face, emphasizing the need for shared humanity.
Universal Flourishing Shouldn’t Be This Hard | Karimah Hudda
Q: Can you tell us your professional journey but in three pivotal moments?
Karimah shared her journey highlighting three pivotal flights that shaped her identity and purpose, focusing on her experiences in the U.S., the UK, and Indonesia.
Ending Plastic Pollution Shouldn’t Be This Hard | David Katz
Q: What should people focus on for conscious leadership?
Self-awareness and understanding the present moment are crucial.

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A series focused on the challenges of enacting responsible business practices and conscious leadership, featuring conversations with a diverse array of guests. Central themes revolve around sustainability, social responsibility, and leadership in business, highlighting the complexities faced by those who aim to create a meaningful impact in their fields. The discussions address the disparity between good intentions and tangible outcomes in business, offering practical insights and candid narratives from founders, social entrepreneurs, and industry leaders who are navigating these challenges. The inclusion of an AI co-host adds a unique and provocative element to the conversations, encouraging listeners to rethink conventional business parad... more

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