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In Conversation with Janina Fisher: Wisdom Between Colleagues; Insights For Us All

Janina Fisher, PhD
Trauma Therapy
Trauma
EMDR
Mental Health
Trauma-Informed Stabilization Treatment
Complex Trauma
Attachment
Art Therapy
Mindfulness
Neuroscience-Informed Modalities
Attachment Theory
Implicit Memory
Victim Services
Brainspotting
Systemic Oppression
Internal Family Systems
Complex PTSD
Memory Reconsolidation
Somatic Therapy
Trauma Treatment

In Conversation with Janina Fisher features intimate, unscripted dialogues between Dr. Janina Fisher and leading voices in trauma therapy. Each episode explores the nuances of healing—from attachment wounds and somatics to IFS, memory reconsolidation, and anti-oppressive care. Thoughtful, relational, and deeply human, these conversations offer insight and inspiration for clinicians and curious min... more

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In this episode of In Conversation with Janina Fisher, Janina sits down with clinical psychologist Paul Gilbert, the founder of Compassion-Focused Therapy, for a rich and reflective dialogue on shame, compassion, and the evolutionary roots of sufferi... more

In this illuminating conversation, Janina Fisher sits down with Bruce Ecker, co-developer of Coherence Therapy and co-author of Unlocking the Emotional Brain, to explore the powerful role of implicit memory in shaping trauma and human behavior. Toget... more

In this deeply personal and illuminating conversation, Janina Fisher sits down with therapist, researcher, and founder of Black Therapists Rock, Deran Young, to explore the profound ways trauma, culture, and lived experience shape the nervous system—... more

In this thoughtful and wide-ranging conversation, Janina Fisher, PhD, sits down with David Grand, developer of Brainspotting, to explore how healing happens when therapists learn to trust the client’s nervous system rather than trying to direct it. T... more

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Recent Guests

Paul Gilbert
Developer of Compassionate Mind Therapy; pioneer in Compassion Focused Therapy
Episode: You Can See the Proof That You're Loved and Still Not Feel It
Bruce Ecker
Co-developer of Coherence Therapy
Coherence Therapy
Episode: Trauma Symptoms Aren't Broken. They're Logical.
Deran Young
Retired military therapist and founder of Black Therapists Rock
Black Therapists Rock
Episode: What Happens When the Therapist Carries the Same Trauma as the Client?
David Grand
Developer and disseminator of Brainspotting
Brainspotting
Episode: What If the Most Important Thing a Therapist Can Do Is Nothing?
Matthias Barker
Founder of estrangement.com; podcaster focusing on trauma and estrangement
estrangement.com
Episode: Being Cut Off by Your Child Might Be the Most Important Message They've Ever Sent You
Dafna Lender
Expert in Theraplay and Integrated Attachment Family Therapy
Theraplay practitioner and author
Episode: Kids Don't Need Correction First. They Need Connection.
Deborah Korn
Psychologist, EMDR expert, author of Every Memory Deserves Respect
EMDR and trauma therapy community
Episode: Your Client's Resistance Is Telling You Something. Are You Listening?
David Kessler
Author and grief expert discussing meaning-making and stages of grief
Episode: Avoiding Grief Might Be Part of Healing
Nancy Napier
Author and clinician; trainer in somatic experiences; clinical hypnotherapist
Author of Getting Through the Day; Somatic Experiences trainer
Episode: The Past Lives in the Body as a Felt Sense, Not a Story

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Janina Fisher
Host with a focus on trauma therapy, somatic approaches, and collaborative clinical conversations; multiple episodes feature deep dives into EMDR, somatic therapy, polyvagal theory, and neurobiological perspectives.

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What If the Most Important Thing a Therapist Can Do Is Nothing?
Q: So when you teach people about the dual attunement framework, what is the core emphasis?
The core emphasis is that the relationship with the client comes first, and the eye and body processing are layered on top as secondary mechanisms that unfold within a mindful, curious frame.
Being Cut Off by Your Child Might Be the Most Important Message They've Ever Sent You
Q: What do you do when a parent denies harm or refuses reconciliation?
Acknowledge the harm, validate the survivor's experience, and, if repair isn't possible, help build peace with what is possible, focusing on partial, healthier connections rather than forcing a full reconciliation.
Being Cut Off by Your Child Might Be the Most Important Message They've Ever Sent You
Q: Do you think self-led memory processing can work, or does it always need a relational context?
Relational context is crucial; the relationship with the therapist or a trusted other is both triggering and healing, although certain techniques can support processing when applied carefully within a supportive environment.

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Conversations center on trauma therapy, with a strong emphasis on relational approaches, somatic practices, and integrative models. Across episodes, hosts and guests explore how attachment dynamics, dissociation, memory reconsolidation, and neurobiological perspectives inform clinical work, often weaving in personal recovery stories and practical techniques for navigating challenging cases. The show frequently surfaces emerging modalities (e.g., EMDR within somatic frameworks, polyvagal-informed presence, and trauma-informed stabilization) and underscores the therapeutic relationship as a core driver of healing. Notable threads include meaning-making after loss, culturally informed care, and the balance between clinical rigor and compassion... more

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Recent guests on In Conversation include:

1. Paul Gilbert
2. Bruce Ecker
3. Deran Young
4. David Grand
5. Matthias Barker
6. Dafna Lender
7. Deborah Korn
8. David Kessler

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