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Learn how the smartest people in the world are using AI to think, create, and relate. Each week I interview founders, filmmakers, writers, investors, and others about how they use AI tools like ChatGPT, Claude, and Midjourney in their work and in their lives. We screen-share through their historical chats and then experiment with AI live on the show. Join us to discover how AI is changing how we t... more

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Most frameworks for working with AI agents assume humans should stay in the loop at every phase. That’s the wrong approach, says Cora general manager Kieran Klaassen.

Kieran is the creator of Every's AI-native engineering methodology, compound engin... more

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Most AI companies are racing to build bigger LLMs. Eve Bodnia thinks that's the wrong approach.

Eve is the founder and CEO of Logical Intelligence, which is developing an alternative to the transformer-based models dominating the industry. Her argum... more

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While walking to the office, our COO Brandon Gell had his AI agent call him and go over his emails in his inbox one by one. When he arrived, he opened Gmail and confirmed she'd done everything he'd asked. "My jaw is on the floor," he messaged me.

Tha... more

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Founded in 2019, Linear is the rare company started pre-ChatGPT to have successfully reinvented itself as an agent-native business.

On this episode of AI & I, Dan Shipper sat down with Karri Saarinen, cofounder and CEO of the product management tool,... more

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Recent Guests

Mike Krieger
Co-founder of Instagram, now at Anthropic and Anthropic Labs
Anthropic / Instagram
Episode: How to Build an Agent-native Product | Mike Krieger
Kate Lee
Editor-in-Chief of Every
Every
Episode: How Every Builds a Writing Team in the Age of AI
Nir Zicherman
Co-founder and CEO of Oboe, an AI learning app
Oboe
Episode: Why Your AI Learning Projects Keep Fizzling Out
Sarah Rose Siskind
Science comedy writer and founder of the Science and Technology Communications Agency, Hello SciCom
Hello SciCom
Episode: She Turned Her Whole Life Into Training Data—For an AI Baby
Paul Ford
Co-founder of Aboard, writer, and AI technology advocate.
Aboard
Episode: Why Opus 4.5 Just Became the Most Influential AI Model
Aaron Levie
Box CEO and long-time tech entrepreneur
Box
Episode: Box CEO Aaron Levie on Why AI Agents Won’t Take Your Job
Alex Rattray
Founder and CEO of Stainless, specializing in APIs for major firms.
Stainless
Episode: MCP Servers: Teaching AI to Use the Internet Like Humans
Naveen Naidu
Developer and entrepreneur behind Monologue
Every
Episode: One Developer Got Thousands of Users Before His App Launched
Brandon Gell
COO of Every
Every
Episode: One Developer Got Thousands of Users Before His App Launched

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Dan Shipper
Host of AI & I; frequently discusses AI tools, software, and productivity with a pragmatic, hands-on approach.

Reviews

4.5 out of 5 stars from 131 ratings
  • Something very unsettling about…

    …listening to Kate Lee joke with her boss about him repeatedly trying to automate her job. Glad to know he thinks that’s pretty funny!

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    NY1235at
    United Statesa month ago
  • 😁

    Great insights on AI

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    5
    pwilwil🔥
    United Kingdom2 months ago
  • So Practical!

    Love listening to this one. :). Keep it up!

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    5
    E Christensen
    United States8 months ago
  • Great podcast

    Great content, it contains several useful tips that I picked up along the way. Genuine exchanges between the host and the interviewee.

    There are 2 cons:

    - the ads are very loud compared to the audio

    - some information is lost since most of the interviews are screen shares.

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    4
    Maximals
    Canada2 years ago
  • Well done, Dan

    No clue how I stumbled upon "Every with Dan Shipper," but as an AI enthusiast and a subscriber to their newsletter, I'm totally hooked! Dan's passion for AI is contagious, and the way he explores its applications with guests is absolutely brilliant. It broadens our understanding of AI and its potential applications in such an engaging way.

    The episode featuring Peter D. Kramer, one of Dan's favorite authors, was a gem. They discussed Kramer's work, including Dan's love for his book, and then de... more

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    TampaPierce
    United States2 years ago

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Great mic-drops on AI practicality and live tooling demos.

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The AI Model Built for What LLMs Can't Do
Q: How do EBMs differ from LLMs in terms of understanding and latent variables?
EEBM uses latent variables to store learned rules and structure the data within an energy landscape, enabling a form of understanding beyond language probabilities, while LLMs rely on token-based likelihoods and you typically only see outputs after the fact.
The AI Model Built for What LLMs Can't Do
Q: Can you define EBM for us?
EBMs are energy-based models that avoid token guessing, map data to an energy landscape, and allow internal and external verification to ensure outputs are correct, which makes them less of a black box and more controllable than traditional LLMs.
How to Build an Agent-native Product | Mike Krieger
Q: How do you think about product structure and who builds products now inside the Labs team given the capabilities of the models?
He describes a two-track approach: maintaining strong architectural robustness with senior engineers while leveraging applied AI, designers, and product-minded folks to prototype and iterate in a lean, incubator-like environment, often using co-founder–level conviction and a shared resource layer to pull in specialists as needed.
How to Build an Agent-native Product | Mike Krieger
Q: So tell me about your experience now versus earlier in Anthropic versus Instagram and how you think things are changing.
He explains how product-building has shifted from long, linear development toward rapid iteration enabled by AI, where decisions about what to cut become as crucial as what to add, and where tools like Claude help re-create or rebuild features quickly while forcing teams to consider core intuitions.
If SaaS Is Dead, Linear Didn't Get the Memo
Q: What metrics matter in an AI-driven product environment beyond token usage and PR counts?
Traditional metrics like profits, revenue, and user love remain important, but teams should also track bug reduction, feature adoption, and actual product improvements to determine if AI-enabled workflows are delivering real value.

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Frequently Asked Questions About AI & I

What is AI & I about and what kind of topics does it cover?

Across recent episodes, the show explores practical AI in business and life, from AI-assisted startup incubation and product development to hands-on demonstrations of coding, learning platforms, and productivity tools. Conversational patterns emphasize real-world workflows, experimentation with live chats, and accessible AI adoption for non-experts, with guests ranging from startup founders and engineers to educators and AI researchers. A recurring thread is AI as an enabler—accelerating discovery, decision-making, and execution—while balancing hands-on rigor with pragmatic, old-world industries and human-centric outcomes. Notable moments often spotlight live tooling demos, product design discussions, and thoughtful takes on how AI reshapes... more

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