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Heterodox Out Loud

Heterodox Academy
Higher Education
Free Speech
Academic Freedom
Viewpoint Diversity
Heterodox Academy
Social Media
Gender Identity
Sociology
Social Justice
Political Polarization
Censorship
Mental Health
Trans Rights
Open Inquiry
Campus Protests
Feminism
Ideology
Diversity
Brown University
Anxiety

Heterodox Out Loud, hosted by HxA president, John Tomasi, is an ongoing podcast featuring conversations with people across the academy and beyond. Listen to insightful, thought-provoking episodes from the HxA community by adding our podcast to your lineup.

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What makes a university essential to a democratic society?

Political theorist, classicist, and author Danielle Allen joins John Tomasi to explore the deep connections between democracy, disagreement, and higher education.

Drawing on her new book, T... more

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What's actually wrong with the modern university?

Today on Heterodox Out Loud, renowned legal scholar and public intellectual Cass Sunstein joins John Tomasi to examine one of the most important, and contentious, questions in higher education today.... more

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Is the very field that studies groupthink falling victim to it?

Today on Heterodox Out Loud, Smriti Mehta, researcher at UC Berkeley and co-founder of the Heterodox Academy campus community, joins John Tomasi to examine a striking paradox at the hea... more

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Is higher education losing public trust, and what can universities do about it?

Today on Heterodox Out Loud, Sian Beilock, President of Dartmouth College, joins John Tomasi to confront one of the most urgent challenges facing universities today: a g... more

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Cass Sunstein
Professor and author
Episode: Cass Sunstein on What's Actually Wrong With the University | Ep 46
Smriti Mehta
Berkeley (Department of Education) and researcher at UC Berkeley
Episode: The Field That Studies Groupthink Is Captured by It | Ep 45
Sian Beilock
President of Dartmouth College
Dartmouth College
Episode: Universities Have a Trust Problem. This President Is Trying to Fix It | Ep 44
Ed Seidel
President of University of Wyoming
University of Wyoming
Episode: Can a Public University Stay Politically Neutral? with Ed Seidel | Ep 43
Kavita Bala
Provost of Cornell University, expert in computer science and artificial intelligence
Cornell University
Episode: The University in the Age of AI: Rebuilding Trust, Truth, and Teaching with Kavita Bala | Ep 42
Joe Cohn
Policy Director at Heterodox Academy, former head of government relations for FIRE, and a practicing lawyer focused on First Amendment issues.
Heterodox Academy
Episode: Trump vs. Academia: Inside the Battle Over Campus Speech with Joe Cohn | Ep 33
Cary Nelson
Author and professor, known for his work on academic freedom and anti-Semitism in higher education
Emeritus Professor at the University of Illinois
Episode: Confronting Anti-Semitism in Higher Education with Cary Nelson | Ep 32
Keith Whittington
David Boise Professor of Law at Yale Law School and Director of the Center for Academic Freedom and Free Speech
Yale Law School
Episode: The Classroom Legislative Battle with Keith Whittington | Ep 23
Anthony Leaker
Senior lecturer in cultural and critical theory at the University of Brighton, and author of 'Against Free Speech'.
University of Brighton
Episode: Against Free Speech with Anthony Leaker | Ep 21

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John Tomasi
President of Heterodox Academy; Host of Heterodox Out Loud; leading voice on viewpoint diversity and academic freedom

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 159 ratings
  • The kind of conversations we need in a polarized, angry world

    Podcast Addict
    5
    soufee108
    2 years ago
  • Concern Citizen

    I stumbled upon this Podcast series recently after following Jonathan Haight’s talk about the extreme polarity happening in the society today. This series has awaken my inner humanists and the yearn for opening the dialogues between today’s society divide. I hope we can bring your program to New Zealand universities soon.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Jaci296
    New Zealand2 years ago
  • Thumbs up to Alexandra Lysova

    Great interview with Alexandra Lysova. Anyone interested in the work of HxA should listen to this. She has done some awesome work in moving the needle.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    SVKrist
    United States2 years ago
  • Interesting but let guests driver conversation

    Great topics and interesting guests. However, at times frustrating to listen, speakers interrupt each other, and I feel that the host wants to talk and drive conversation too much. I listen to hear the guests speak, and am less engaged when the host interrupts or overly tries to “keep things on track”.

    Apple Podcasts
    3
    B-listens-to-podcasts
    Canada3 years ago
  • Excellent content

    But I wish the host would stop misusing the word, “blog.”

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Teal Ehm
    Canada4 years ago

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Positive reception of discussions around trust in higher education and civil discourse.
Occasional host-led pacing can rub some listeners the wrong way, but guests drive the conversation.
Thoughtful and insightful, with rigorous analysis across societal issues.
Guests are strong and diverse, contributing valuable expertise.
Listeners appreciate practical examples of how universities can foster open inquiry.

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Cass Sunstein on What's Actually Wrong With the University | Ep 46
Q: How should universities handle DEI initiatives so that they enhance, rather than suppress, open inquiry?
Sunstein notes the need to distinguish legitimate efforts to broaden participation from approaches that stifle dissent, emphasizing empirical evaluation and ongoing dialogue about what constitutes fair, productive diversity of views.
Cass Sunstein on What's Actually Wrong With the University | Ep 46
Q: Is there a role for university administrators who are not subject-matter experts to guide viewpoint diversity without undermining academic freedom?
He suggests administrators can ask probing questions and encourage openness while respecting the expertise of departments, though there is a delicate balance to ensure external pressures do not override scholarly judgment.
Cass Sunstein on What's Actually Wrong With the University | Ep 46
Q: Do you think group polarization can explain the extremes of identity politics on contemporary campuses?
Sunstein argues that while identity politics can reflect genuine concerns, group dynamics often push toward extremes unless there is deliberate exposure to and engagement with alternative viewpoints, which requires institutional incentives to teach and model balanced consideration.
Can a Public University Stay Politically Neutral? with Ed Seidel | Ep 43
Q: How has the political landscape affected your approach as a university president?
I think it's crucial for a public university to emphasize institutional neutrality, particularly in a conservative state like Wyoming, to ensure we are open to all ideas.
Can a Public University Stay Politically Neutral? with Ed Seidel | Ep 43
Q: What does viewpoint diversity look like in practice?
It's about fostering an environment where all views can be expressed and respected, rather than creating a balance of opposing viewpoints.

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The show centers on higher education, open inquiry, and viewpoint diversity, often featuring university leaders, scholars, and policy-minded experts who grapple with academic freedom, DEI initiatives, and trust in higher education. Through conversations with presidents, provosts, and researchers, it explores how campuses balance rigorous inquiry with inclusive environments, and how institutions can foster civil discourse without stifling expertise. Notable is the consistent focus on practical policies and programs that promote open dialogue, campus climate, and trust-building in academia, making it a thoughtful resource for anyone curious about the state of higher education and intellectual pluralism.

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1. Cass Sunstein
2. Smriti Mehta
3. Sian Beilock
4. Ed Seidel
5. Kavita Bala
6. Joe Cohn
7. Cary Nelson
8. Keith Whittington

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