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Engaging ESG with Jennifer Owens and Kati Kallins

Jennifer Owens and Kati Kallins
Sustainability
Adobe
Bond Studio
Governance
Climate Communications
Regenerative Agriculture
Conservation Storytelling
Carbon Literacy
Clever Carbon
Futerra
Climate Change
Purpose-Driven Governance
Climate Reporting
Storytelling
Sustainability Hiring
Gaming Industry
Leafr
ESG Messaging
Consumer Power
Beneficial State Foundation

Engaging ESG brings together sustainability and marketing leaders for candid conversations about what actually works when communicating sustainability and social impact. Join Jennifer Owens, ESG marketing consultant, and Kati Kallins, global head of sustainability at Adobe, as they and their guests cut through the noise to deliver practical strategies you can implement today.

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Latest Episodes

Jennifer and Kati close out season four with a look back at the conversations that stuck with them — from welcome over shame to hope as a strategy to the quiet reality of the work still getting done — and share their read on where sustainability comm... more

Women receive less than 1% of climate finance in the US and about 5% globally. And yet research consistently shows that women who do get funded generate more than twice the revenue per dollar invested compared to male peers.

So why does the gap persi... more

Gus Bartholomew, co-founder of Leafr, joins Jennifer and Kati to talk about one of the most persistent challenges in corporate sustainability: the expertise gap.

With most large companies relying on just one to three people to deliver on increasingly... more

Michelle Li, founder of Clever Carbon and Women in Climate, joins Jennifer and Kati to talk about making carbon literacy accessible, engaging, and even joyful.

Michelle started her career in Silicon Valley with stints at Salesforce and DocuSign. In 2... more

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Recent Guests

Gus Bartholomew
Co-founder of Leafr, marketplace for sustainability professionals
Leafr
Episode: Closing the Sustainability Expertise Gap EP 42
Michelle Li
Global climate champion and founder of Clever Carbon
Clever Carbon
Episode: Making Carbon Literacy Fun, Familiar and Scalable EP 41
Drew Wilkinson
Sustainability communicator, founder of the Climate Leadership Collective
Climate Leadership Collective
Episode: Making Sustainability Part of Everybody's Job EP 40
Amanda Gardiner
Executive Director of the UN Global Compact Network USA
UN Global Compact Network USA
Episode: Collective Action in a Polarized World EP 39
Lindsay Baker
CEO of the Living Future Institute; former Google Green Building Team member
Living Future Institute
Episode: Building a Regenerative Future EP 38
Richard Kent
Principal Consultant at Acre
Acre
Episode: What's Really Happening Right Now in Sustainability Hiring EP 37
Catherine Harris
Executive Director of Sustainable Business Americas at Acre
Acre
Episode: What's Really Happening Right Now in Sustainability Hiring EP 37
Ami Vitale
National Geographic photographer, filmmaker, founder of Vital Impacts
Vital Impacts; National Geographic
Episode: Seeing Climate Change: Hope, Humanity + Conservation EP 36
Evan Harrison
CEO of Kiss the Ground, regenerative agriculture advocate
Kiss the Ground
Episode: Soil, Stories and the Power of Positive Messaging EP 35

Hosts

Jennifer Owens
Marketing Executive and Consultant; Host of Engaging ESG; involved in ESG marketing and communications
Kati Kallins
Global Head of Sustainability at Adobe; Co-host discussing sustainability messaging; Host of Engaging ESG

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 23 ratings
  • Kati Kallins

    Very informative for businesses trying to incorporate sustainable practices, and to help to become more inclusive

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    women leading
    United States3 years ago
  • Excellent podcast on ESG

    I'm so glad to have an explanation on ESG and how it affects business. This is a big topic and it's so nice to have some intelligent discourse on the subject. Can't wait to hear the remaining episodes!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    cmoratto
    United States3 years ago
  • Super informative!

    I’ve learned so much about ESG after just one episode and I look forward to learning more in this series. Thanks for keeping me engaged!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    HelsF
    United States3 years ago

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Super informative! Learned a lot about ESG after just one episode
Excellent podcast on ESG, explanation on ESG and how it affects business; intelligent discourse
Very informative for businesses trying to incorporate sustainable practices, and to help to become more inclusive

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Closing the Sustainability Expertise Gap EP 42
Q: What makes a good consultant-client match beyond technical skills?
Leafr emphasizes a stringent vetting process centered on a consultant's prior case studies, demonstrated experience in similar industries, and the ability to engage effectively with clients and manage projects. They also stress the importance of fit beyond skills, including communication style and client relationship management.
Making Carbon Literacy Fun, Familiar and Scalable EP 41
Q: Why focus on branding and a familiar, joyful approach to carbon literacy?
The hosts argue that safe, familiar, and cheeky branding helps reach a broader audience beyond traditional climate circles, reducing doom-and-gloom narratives and enabling scalable action.
Making Carbon Literacy Fun, Familiar and Scalable EP 41
Q: Tell us what you've built with Clever Carbon and the gap it's trying to fill.
Michelle Li describes Clever Carbon as a platform and toolkit that translates carbon data into simple, engaging formats (quizzes, pocket guides, and a carbon footprint coffee menu) to empower individuals and organizations to act.
Collective Action in a Polarized World EP 39
Q: I would love to know what the UN Global Compact USA does, what you're working on, and where things stand today.
Amanda explains that the UN Global Compact USA is the US arm of the world's largest corporate sustainability initiative, pulling together thousands of companies to apply universal principles on human rights, labor, environment, and anti‑corruption into business strategy; Network USA focuses on coordinating and supporting US‑based companies and facilitating cross‑sector collaboration.
Gaming for Good: Climate Action in Digital Worlds EP 33
Q: How can brands engage authentically in gaming spaces without appearing performative?
Identify existing community connections, leverage in-game activations tied to genuine community activities, ensure ongoing commitment rather than one-off PR stunts, and involve communities in crafting the message to avoid shallow messaging.

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What is Engaging ESG about and what kind of topics does it cover?

Engaging ESG consistently features conversations that bridge sustainability with practical communications, marketing, and leadership. Episodes frequently center on actionable strategies for integrating ESG into business, using storytelling to drive engagement, and navigating regulatory and market shifts. Notable threads include on-demand sustainability talent marketplaces, scalable carbon literacy, cross‑sector collaboration, and governance-focused governance frameworks. The show often highlights real-world implementations—from how organizations scale climate work beyond traditional teams to how brands communicate credibility and authenticity in ESG narratives. A standout aspect is its mix of executive-level perspectives with practitioners,... more

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