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Deconstructor of Fun

Deconstructor of Fun
Gaming Industry
Roblox
Mobile Gaming
Supercell
User Acquisition
Game Development
Applovin
Epic Games
Fortnite
Ubisoft
Xbox
Game Monetization
Call Of Duty
Cyprus
Appsflyer
Unity
Scopely
AI In Gaming
Venture Capital
Hybrid Casual Games

Deconstructor of Fun podcast is created by games professionals for games professionals. We explore the business side of the games industry with the goal of bringing listeners content that is relevant, insightful, and entertaining on a weekly basis. Hosts: Michail Katkoff www.linkedin.com/in/michailkatkoff/ Eric Kress www.linkedin.com/in/erickress/ Phillip Black www.linkedin.com/in/phillip-black-ec... more

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In this episode, we break down:

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Recent Guests

Christopher Anjos
Guest, game developer/analyst
Episode: Shooter Monthly #7: Marathon’s Collapse, Apex’s Comeback, & Disney’s Extraction Shooter
Laura Taranto
Puzzle content expert, previously at Twig
Microsoft / Minecraft (former Twig)
Episode: Puzzle Monthly #2: Match-3 Is Broken, Pixel Flow Clones, and Royal Kingdom’s Rise
Tom Storr
Industry veteran from King and Experimentation Group
King / Experimentation Group
Episode: Puzzle Monthly #2: Match-3 Is Broken, Pixel Flow Clones, and Royal Kingdom’s Rise
Phillip Black
Economist, Twig liaison
Twig
Episode: Puzzle Monthly #2: Match-3 Is Broken, Pixel Flow Clones, and Royal Kingdom’s Rise
Warren Woodward
Co-founder and Chief Growth Officer at Uptick
Uptick
Episode: UA Monthly #3: Freecash Ban, Unity Kills ironSource & Vector’s Rise
Nick Tornow
Senior Vice President of Engine and Creator Engineering at Roblox
Roblox
Episode: Can You Build a Real Business on Roblox?
Zach Letter
CEO of WonderWorks, Roblox studio veteran
WonderWorks
Episode: Can You Build a Real Business on Roblox?
Gil Tovly
CMO of AppCharge
AppCharge
Episode: The Epic Settlement: Google's "Level Up" Program & The Future of DTC
Chris Sides
Former EA and Bungie contributor, worked on Marathon
Former EA / Bungie
Episode: Shooter Monthly #5: The Marathon Revelation, Overwatch Reborn & The Death of Highguard

Hosts

Jen Donahoe
Host of Deconstructor of Fun; marketing/publishing lead
Eric Kress
Host focusing on strategy and monetization commentary
Michail Katkoff
Host; co-host and industry commentator
Phillip Black
Host; monetization economist / commentator

Reviews

4.7 out of 5 stars from 534 ratings
  • woof

    Some of the most insufferable personalities in podcasting, unsubbed after Eric started casually dropping the r-slur.

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    nickfourtimes
    Canada2 months ago
  • Ever wonder what the far right thinks about gaming?

    From promoting authoritarian states in unmarked ads, to mocking the homeless as not real people, to blaming Joe Biden for the EU existing (?!?) and now finally to Ai not succeeding in gaming not because it doesn’t work but because of “left wing artists”.

    How daft are they? They used to have an entire series dedicated to the “inevitable” rise of NFTs and web 3 gaming.

    Philip black may be known as the stupidest man in gaming for a reason… but please hire them as consultants!

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    BigBetter
    United States7 months ago
  • Underwhelming

    For such a good newsletter the hosts are actually pretty weak in podcast form. Chore to listen to.

    Apple Podcasts
    2
    Jrd929
    United States8 months ago
  • Entertaining and useful

    Great host and guests covering all holistic industry topics and deep dives on topical events

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    BigDave1092
    Sweden9 months ago
  • Fun and insightful

    Need to drop Ethan though

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    NC099
    United States9 months ago

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Insightful, high-signal industry analysis with strong host chemistry.
Audio quality and some episodes can be uneven; pacing and hosting style can be polarizing.
Valuable for listeners who want practical takeaways on monetization and growth.

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#74
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Apple Podcasts
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Apple Podcasts
#193
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#121
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#132
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Talking Points

Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

UA Monthly #4: Freecash Android Comeback, Mistplay Goes All In & Can Anyone Stop AppLovin?
Q: What is your take on Sensor Tower acquiring AppMagic and the potential implications for the market?
The panel views this as consolidation that could reduce competition and potentially normalize pricing, with AppMagic offering a lower-cost tier that could erode some share from Sensor Tower's existing offerings, but they see mixed differentiation across product features.
Left VC to Become a Founder Again. Here's What They Don't Tell You About Running a Fund
Q: So what is the notion of timing?
Timing is crucial for fundraising; despite long discussions about market conditions, founders often push ahead when capital is available, while LPs remain cautious, especially after the pandemic, making timely fundraising a key predictor of success.
What Newzoo's 2026 PC & Console Report Actually Says
Q: What are the key takeaways from the 2026 PC & Console report?
The main takeaways are that PC is outgrowing console in nominal terms, engagement is flattening with a shift in playtime toward different genres (notably sandbox), and pricing dynamics are evolving toward a mid-price premium live-service model, with Roblox playing a uniquely platform-driven role.
400,000 Wishlists in a Month: Dead as Disco's Steam(ing) Playbook
Q: Adam, I wanted to ask you a little bit about some of the playtests that you did and some of the surveys that you were able to do. How are you using those in-game surveys and any of these player feedback kind of functionality services?
Adam explains that they consistently use a set of five key questions to gather feedback from players about enjoyment and engagement to make informed decisions on game development.
400,000 Wishlists in a Month: Dead as Disco's Steam(ing) Playbook
Q: Eden, you are first up with First Look. Can you walk us through the three phases that you outline of how you help game teams and marketers approach this?
Eden describes the phases of marketing as pre-launch, launch, and post-launch while emphasizing the need for community building and product market fit throughout.

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A sharp, industry-focused roundtable centered on the business of games. Across episodes, discussions frequently pivot around live service dynamics, monetization economics, platform strategies (including subscriptions and AD-supported models), and the tension between big IPs and lean development approaches. Guests range from developers and operators to investors and market analysts, with a penchant for data-informed takes, candid disagreements, and practical takeaways for strategy, growth, and market positioning. The show stands out for its veteran perspectives, willingness to challenge conventional wisdom, and a candid, debate-driven format that blends macro industry trends with hands-on insights for publishers, developers, and investors.

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2. Laura Taranto
3. Tom Storr
4. Phillip Black
5. Warren Woodward
6. Nick Tornow
7. Zach Letter
8. Gil Tovly

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