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Create or Destroy: Reimagining Marketing with Seth Matlins

Seth Matlins
Marketing
Value Creation
Branding
Business
Qualcomm
Canva
EOS Products
Uber
Yeti
Adobe
Product Marketing
Customer Experience
Vox Media
Wisdomous Company
Culture
Soyoung Kang
Architecture
CFO
Boardroom/corporate Governance
Snapdragon

Each week, marketing maestro Seth Matlins is joined by the most influential thinkers across business and culture for unvarnished, actionable, and frequently irreverent conversations on the forces that shape how value is either created or destroyed. From product decisions, supply chain, and capital allocation, to cultural and economic shifts, competitive dynamics, technological disruptions, and int... more

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Mayur Gupta is an engineer who spent eight years writing code before he ever touched marketing, and that beginning shapes everything about how he thinks about value. Across 26 years at Spotify, Kimberly Clark, Gannett, and now as Chief Growth and Mar... more

In Silicon Valley, value can be created or destroyed with every new technology and product innovation. Over his career, Don McGuire, EVP and CMO of Qualcomm, has seen waves of value creation and destruction.

From Don’s POV and experience, the most s... more

This week, one of the central ideas of Create or Destroy gets flipped: namely, that product is marketing. Every single product decision is ultimately a marketing decision, and it either contributes to value creation or value destruction.

Lara Balazs... more

From Yeti to Uber and now as CMO of global wellness company AG1, Paulie Dery has built value for companies whose products could easily be commoditized, but weren’t. Having started his career on the agency side as a copywriter, Paulie understands that... more

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Don McGuire
EVP and Global CMO of Qualcomm, also oversees Snapdragon branding
Qualcomm
Episode: Qualcomm's Don McGuire, on How A Narrative Shift Created 89% More Value
Lara Balazs
EVP and CMO of Global Marketing at Adobe
Adobe
Episode: Adobe's Lara Balazs On Orchestrating Value Creation
Paulie Dery
CMO, AG1 (Athletic Greens)
AG1
Episode: Paulie Dery on Why Every Decision is a Brand Decision
Soyoung Kang
President of EOS Products; former Chief Marketing and Innovation Officer
EOS Products
Episode: Soyoung Kang on the Architecture of Value Creation
David Axelrod
Legendary political strategist and consultant; former chief strategist for Barack Obama
Former Obama campaign strategist; CNN commentator
Episode: David Axelrod on How to Rebuild the American Brand
Nick Tran
Chief marketer and president of the enterprise for the brands discussed; former global head of marketing at TikTok
Cîroc Vodka and Lobos 1707 Tequila
Episode: Nick Tran on How One Marketing Decision Created More Value Than Any Campaign

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Seth Matlins
Host of Create or Destroy: Reimagining Marketing with Seth Matlins, combining experience across Vox Media Podcast Network and Wisdomous Company.

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5.0 out of 5 stars from 13 ratings
  • So many insights!

    I love how Seth approaches value creation or destruction and how Nick Tran hits the ball back. Appreciate these insights for marketing pros

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Annuperspective
    United Statesa month ago
  • Really really good new show

    I learn something new every time

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    akej12345
    United Statesa month ago
  • Fantastic start

    Seth brings next-level insights for business leaders and marketers. Looking forward to future eps.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    PodPerson13
    United Statesa month ago

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The conversations feel elevated and thoughtful, with clear value for listeners seeking deeper marketing leadership insights.
So many insights! The host and Nick Tran challenge conventional marketing thinking with practical takeaways.
Very strong start and highly actionable for business leaders and marketers.

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Paulie Dery on Why Every Decision is a Brand Decision
Q: Can you share an example where a non-marketing decision created or destroyed value?
A key example was Uber's driver-focused changes under pressure; improving pay, breaks, and routing signals to drivers showed how operational decisions feed back into brand strength and customer sentiment, effectively driving growth.
Paulie Dery on Why Every Decision is a Brand Decision
Q: How do you define value, creation, and destruction from a brand perspective?
Value is created when a brand makes customers feel good, connected, and proud to engage with the product; destruction happens when the brand fails to meet expectations or betrays trust, leading customers to choose competitors. The guest emphasizes sentiment and experience as core indicators of value.
Adobe's Lara Balazs On Orchestrating Value Creation
Q: What is value, and how do you define it in marketing today?
Value is providing meaning in people's lives, combining emotional and rational benefits with a cost perspective, and ultimately being grounded in the customer's real needs and context.
Soyoung Kang on the Architecture of Value Creation
Q: What was the turning point at EOS that justified the significant packaging and supply chain changes?
Direct consumer feedback and a willingness to experiment with an informal beta approach showed that listening to a few customers could justify large-scale changes that improved experience, sustainability, and internal motivation.
Soyoung Kang on the Architecture of Value Creation
Q: Why do you think the role of marketing as the voice of the end user has sometimes been lost in large organizations?
Because organizations become siloed and obsess over internal processes or competitors, rather than staying relentlessly customer-centric and cross-functional, which dilutes the end-user perspective across departments.

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A thoughtful, high-level discussion show focused on how value is created or destroyed through marketing, product decisions, leadership, and organizational design. Episodes feature CMOs, CEOs, and cultural thinkers from tech, consumer brands, and politics, exploring topics like brand architecture, signaling to investors, customer experience, and the intersection of storytelling with business outcomes. Noteworthy aspects include a strong emphasis on value as an overarching business driver, practical case studies from well-known brands, and a willingness to challenge conventional marketing wisdom. The format is interview-driven, blending strategic perspective with real-world examples to help leaders, marketers, and builders rethink how their d... more

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