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Conversations in Closed

Down Hold Entertainment
Balboa
Lindy Hop
Swing Dancing
RP Scoring
ILHC
Dance
Queerness
Niigata
From Chloe Hong
Swing Dance Competitions
Post-Concussion Syndrome
Shanghai Balboa Community
California Balboa Classic
Laura Keat
Shag
Audio Editing
Seattle, United States
Collegiate Shag
Seattle
Basel Jitterbugs

Join Jose, Denise, and Jennifer as they interview friends in the Balboa community, and learn more about their stories, ideas, and the experiences that have shaped them. Hosts: Jose Tello, Denise Lwin, Jennifer Wang

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Latest Episodes

Welcome to Shanghai! Come hang with Simone, Marvin, Denise, and Jose as they chat about Balboa, chagee, dancing in China, and more...

Simone Wu is a pessimist about verbal communication, but an optimist on the dance floor. Skeptical of words, she f... more

Jenn + Jose meet up with Andrew Wilson! Yes, that Andrew Wilson!

Andrew is a Balboa and Lindy Hop dancer based in Durham, North Carolina. A passionate teacher, competitor, and social dancer, Andrew is drawn to the aspects of dance he finds most rewa... more

From the archives: Jose visits Soochan Lee (and Young!) in their beautiful home in Seoul, Korea.

A pioneer of the Korean swing dance scene, Soochan transitioned from a street dance background to become a globally recognized instructor, performer, a... more

Sam Chan enters the chat. And gets boba with Jenn & Jose! Strap yourselves in for a ridiculous episode.

Sam has been swing dancing since 2003 and trained under original dancers like Dean Raftery, and old timers like Marge Takier. He took 1st at the ... more

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Recent Guests

Simone Wu
Full-time swing dance instructor and Balboa organizer
The Riff
Episode: 023 - Simone Wu & Marvin Pan
Marvin Pan
Full-time dance teacher, jazz enthusiast, and competition-winning Balboa dancer
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Episode: 023 - Simone Wu & Marvin Pan
Andrew Wilson
Balboa and Lindy Hop dancer, teacher, and competitor based in Durham, North Carolina
Episode: 022 - Andrew Wilson
Soochan Lee
Professional swing dancer, instructor, and studio founder
Triple Crown Swing Dance Studio
Episode: 021 - Soochan Lee
Sam Chan
Balboa dancer and mentor in the Balboa community
Balboa community in Southern California
Episode: 020 - Sam Chan
Neus Castells
Balboa dancer and teacher; guest on the episode
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Episode: 019 - Neus Castells [SPANISH VERSION]
Miyabi Hong
Balboa Taipei / Balboa scene in Taiwan
Episode: 018 - Miyabi Hong
Larissa Heckendorn
Dance instructor and co-owner of Basel Jitterbugs
Basel Jitterbugs
Episode: 017 - Larissa & Heiko Heckendorn
Heiko Heckendorn
Dance instructor and co-owner of Basel Jitterbugs
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Jose Tello
Host of Conversations in Closed
Denise Lwin
Host of Conversations in Closed
Jennifer Wang
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023 - Simone Wu & Marvin Pan
Q: Do you dance differently when the BPM becomes faster, or basically how do you manage faster music?
Marvin recommends registering the tempo without telling yourself the song is too fast, which helps the body relax. Simone advises relaxing, focusing on the rhythm section, and taking a deep breath.
023 - Simone Wu & Marvin Pan
Q: What are some things that you enjoy about teaching and maybe also what are some things that you find challenging about teaching?
Simone enjoys seeing students understand connection and adapt to new techniques, and she varies her approach to suit different learners. Marvin especially enjoys teaching musicality and helping students listen and dance to swing music.
022 - Andrew Wilson
Q: Do you have any advice for new competitors, things that you wish you knew or things that you wish you did when you first started competing?
He recommends having fun and not treating competition results as an objective measure of skill, since luck and bias can affect outcomes. He advises dancers to build strong fundamentals, film and analyze their practice, and identify the improvements most worth their effort.
022 - Andrew Wilson
Q: How did you transition from Lindy Hop to Balboa?
Wilson first danced Lindy Hop, then became interested in blues and its close embrace connection. Friends introduced him to Balboa, and he learned from Chris and Holly Owens in the Triangle scene.
020 - Sam Chan
Q: How did you become involved in Balboa and what drew you to it over other dances?
Sam explains early exposure to Balboa through local studios and mentors, his gradual shift from Lindy Hop to Balboa, and how the sense of community and the flow of the dance drew him in.

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A lively, culture-rich show centered on the Balboa and swing-dance communities. Across episodes, listeners get intimate conversations with dancers, teachers, organizers, and designers who shape the scene—from teaching philosophies, partnership dynamics, and community-building to cross-cultural exchanges, competitions, and festival life. Notable threads include how Balboa blends with other swing styles, the evolution of teaching methods, and the balance between performance, social dancing, and personal life. The series often highlights mentorship, inclusive spaces, and the global growth of Balboa, with guests ranging from regional scene pioneers to international educators and brand founders, making it a go-to for practitioners and enthusiast... more

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