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Complex Systems with Patrick McKenzie (patio11)

Patrick McKenzie
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Landlords
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Big Tech
U.S. Financial Regulations
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Los Angeles
Quantitative Trading
Openai
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We live in a world where our civilization and daily lives depend upon institutions, infrastructure, and technological substrates that are _complicated_ but not _unknowable_. Join Patrick McKenzie (patio11) as he discusses how decisions, technology, culture, and incentives shape our finance, technology, government, and more, with the people who built (and build) those Complex Systems.

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Latest Episodes

Patrick McKenzie is joined by Clara Collier, editor and publisher of Asterisk Magazine, to discuss how we create institutions that bend towards truth. Clara explains why she launched a quarterly print magazine in the Internet age. She traces how 19th... more

Patrick McKenzie is joined by Chris Best, CEO of Substack, to discuss how the platform created new economic infrastructure for independent media. They explore Substack's evolution from a simple newsletter tool to a full media network, the revenue gua... more

Patrick McKenzie is joined again by Kelsey Piper, who has co-founded "The Argument" to revive principled liberal discourse after witnessing how coordinated social media campaigns replaced substantive disagreement in newsrooms. Their conversation trac... more

Patrick McKenzie (patio11) is joined by Emmett Shear, co-founder of Twitch, former interim CEO of OpenAI, who now runs Softmax AI alignment. Emmett argues that current AI safety approaches focused on "systems of control" are fundamentally flawed and ... more

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Recent Guests

Chris Best
CEO of Substack
Substack
Episode: How blogging went legit, with Substack CEO Chris Best
Emmett Shear
Co-founder of Twitch and current CEO of Softmax, involved in AI alignment discussions.
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Episode: AI alignment, with Emmett Shear
Will Wilson
CEO of Antithesis
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Episode: Building software that survives contact with reality, with Will Wilson
Joel Becker
Researcher at METR
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Episode: AI and the great developer speed-up, with Joel Becker of METR
Jim Weisser
Serial entrepreneur and founder of SignTime, with extensive experience in the Japanese software market.
SignTime
Episode: Building software in Japan, with Jim Weisser
Cate Hall
CEO of Astera Institute and author
Astera Institute
Episode: Stacking the odds: Cate Hall on agency and outlier success
Caleb Fenton
Co-founder and CTO of Delphos Labs, a cybersecurity startup
Delphos Labs
Episode: Machine learning meets malware, with Caleb Fenton
Jacob Swett
Founder and Executive Director of Blueprint Biosecurity
Blueprint Biosecurity
Episode: Killing viruses with light, with Jacob Swett
Zac Townsend
CEO of Meanwhile
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Episode: Life insurance and your money, with Zac Townsend

Host

Patrick McKenzie
Host known for his insights on complex systems, intertwining technology and societal frameworks.

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 376 ratings
  • Reliably High-Quality Listening For Serious Systems Integrators Of All Kinds

    If you are curious about how the world works, and especially if you have dirt under your own fingernails from trying to help make it work, then this is a great podcast for your regular rotation. Whether you aim to discover new domains to ponder, glean fresh insights from an old stomping ground, or feel that you’re not alone in the struggle to craft workable systems from the often insane mess of the real world, Patrick’s depth of experience coupled with his pull among like-minded luminaries alwa... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    awgibbs
    United States3 months ago
  • Great podcast exploring just what it says on the tin. Patrick is super knowledgeable and does a good job leading his guests. Couple of highlight episode were the one that covered Medicaid fraud and the one on fracking.

    Podcast Addict
    5
    jibs
    3 months ago
  • Consistently good

    Valuable for those interested in financial operations, AI, and many other interesting matters. The episodes on credit card points and airline mileage programs are particularly good, as is the “seeing like an outsider” episode, in which Patrick allows his listeners to learn what makes him tick. Well done!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    deeper learning
    United States3 months ago
  • Interesting and engaging deep dives

    Podcast Addict
    5
    dppddppd
    4 months ago
  • Complexity is interesting

    Hear interesting details about how people, policy, and tech in government, finance, and energy work

    Apple Podcasts
    4
    bring back the '90s
    United States5 months ago

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Feedback highlights Patrick's engaging interview style, although there are some criticisms regarding potential bias in discussions.
Many find the episode topics relevant and beneficial for grasping complex systems and their real-world implications.
Listeners appreciate the high-quality discussion around intricate topics, often praising the blend of expertise and accessibility.

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How blogging went legit, with Substack CEO Chris Best
Q: What properties do you want from epistemic infrastructure?
Independence and the ability to voice out-of-consensus ideas while being rewarded for doing so.
AI alignment, with Emmett Shear
Q: Where can people follow you and your work on the Internet?
I am at softmax.com, softmax.com.
Killing viruses with light, with Jacob Swett
Q: What are some of the environments where Far UVC should be deployed?
It should be widely deployed in high-risk environments like classrooms, gyms, restaurants, and long-term care facilities.
Killing viruses with light, with Jacob Swett
Q: How is Far UVC different from typical ultraviolet light?
Far UVC is a specific wavelength of UV light that can inactivate pathogens without causing harm to human skin or eyes, as it is absorbed by proteins in our skin.
Seeing like an outsider, with Yatharth
Q: What are some of the unique experiences you've encountered while growing up as a third culture kid?
I have found that my children are experiencing cultural friction as they navigate their identities between American and Japanese cultures.

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The content focuses on the intricate interplay between technology, culture, and decision-making within financial, technological, and governmental systems. Each episode often features deep discussions with industry experts and thought leaders, shedding light on the underlying complexities that drive these systems. Topics span a wide range—such as AI alignment, software reliability, venture capital insights, and the challenges of operating within cultural contexts like Japan's startup ecosystem. Unique to these conversations is their emphasis on demystifying complex topics, making them accessible for listeners who are eager to understand how these systems impact everyday life.

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1. Chris Best
2. Emmett Shear
3. Will Wilson
4. Joel Becker
5. Jim Weisser
6. Cate Hall
7. Caleb Fenton
8. Jacob Swett

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