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Chain of Learning: Leadership Strategies for Transforming Culture, Developing People, and Getting Results

Katie Anderson
Continuous Improvement
Leadership
Toyota
Continuous Learning
Lean
Coaching Continuum
Organizational Culture
Coaching
Transformational Improvement Coach
Lean Leadership
Lean Management
Lean Thinking
Positioning
Problem-Solving Ownership
Reflection
Learning Culture
Japan Leadership Experience
Toyota Production System
Organizational Development
Consulting

Chain of Learning® is the leadership podcast for leaders and change practitioners who believe that people, not tools, are the foundation of lasting results. If you're working to transform your organization's culture, develop leaders at every level, and build teams that are capable, confident, and empowered to solve problems and innovate, this podcast is for you. Hosted by Katie Anderson, award-win... more

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Overstepping ownership rarely looks like overstepping. It looks like moving things along.

You know how something could be improved, so you give your suggestion. Work gets done, progress is visible, but the person you were there to develop doesn't bu... more

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Peter Schein
Co-founder of the Organizational Culture and Leadership Institute; former Silicon Valley executive
Organizational Culture and Leadership Institute
Episode: 86| Ask, Don't Tell: How Humble Inquiry Builds Deeper Connection [with Peter Schein]
Leanne Davey
Organizational psychologist and New York Times bestselling author; co-founder of Three COs; author of Thoughtload
Three COs; Thoughtload
Episode: 85| It's Not the Workload, It's the Thoughtload: Move from Overwhelm to Focus [with Liane Davey]
Anna Pessah
Industrial engineer; former head of internal consulting at Kaiser Permanente North Valley
Kaiser Permanente
Episode: 83| Keep Ownership at the Right Level: How to Sustain Organizational Transformation [with Anna Pessah]
Olivier Larue
Founder and President of Ydatum; author of The Toyota Economic System series
Ydatum
Episode: 82| Connect the Parts, Focus on People: Inside the Toyota Economic System [with Olivier Larue]
Suzie Bishop
Vice President of Product Development at the Center for Leadership Studies; co-author of Situational Leadership
Center for Leadership Studies
Episode: 81| Adapt How You Lead: Situational Leadership in Practice [with Suzie Bishop]
Isao Yoshino
82-year-old former Toyota leader and subject of the host's book
Toyota
Episode: 80| Bad News First: How a Leader's Response Builds a Culture of Learning [with Isao Yoshino]
Gary Peterson
Executive with OC Tanner, leader in people-centered transformation
OC Tanner
Episode: 79| Build Powerful People: Why Transformation Starts with Your Own [with Gary Peterson]
Karina Mangu-Ward
Partner at August, consultant helping large organizations transform how they actually work
August
Episode: 78| Strategy Isn't Enough: 9 Practices to Help Your Team Meet the Moment [with Karina Mangu-Ward]
Rich Sheridan
Co-founder and CEO of Menlo Innovations
Menlo Innovations
Episode: 77| Lead with Joy: A Business Strategy for Success [with Rich Sheridan]

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Katie Anderson
Host of Chain of Learning

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5.0 out of 5 stars from 74 ratings
  • Highly recommend!!!

    A great reminder to work on my own telling habits…

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Kdizz17
    United Statesa month ago
  • May This Podcast Outlast a 100-Year Calendar

    Using my telling habit constructively, I encourage anyone interested in learning, leading, listening, loving, leveraging, and linking anything related to lean, operational excellence, continuous improvement, or, really, just becoming a better human who helps others reach THEIR full potential, to soak in everything this podcast has to offer.

    Katie is amazing — technically fluent in this space, and remarkably skilled at drawing out her guests on great topics. I especially love her KATALYST™ model... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Michael Garretson
    United Statesa month ago
  • A must-listen for people centered change leaders

    I’ve truly love the podcast — every time I listen, I think, wow, this feels like it was curated just for me. The themes around people-centered improvement and leadership development resonate deeply with the work I do.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    LeanLeah
    United States8 months ago
  • Feedback

    Hi Katie, happy birthday! Whilst all of the episodes have been very informative, the most transformative was Ep4 going from Doing to Being. Think it was a case of right time, right place, right headspace. It all clicked and now I conscientiously work and think differently as a consequence. Many thanks Owen Warlond

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    3 Chais Owen
    Australia8 months ago
  • Down to earth!

    I love that Katie and her guests are always very straightforward. Theory is clear, but the examples given support perfectly the theory, making it easier to project on how it could be applied in other situations.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Pedrôlaperks
    Francea year ago

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86| Ask, Don't Tell: How Humble Inquiry Builds Deeper Connection [with Peter Schein]
Q: What books and concepts have influenced you the most in leadership, and why do they matter today?
Peter highlights Edgar Schein's work, especially Humble Inquiry, and discusses how ownership of the thinking process should stay with leaders while they guide others through inquiry and development, using curiosity and humility as the core.
83| Keep Ownership at the Right Level: How to Sustain Organizational Transformation [with Anna Pessah]
Q: What practical steps help prevent overstepping and keep the focus on building capability?
Clarify roles, contract upfront with clients, maintain a coaching vs. consulting hat, and use labeling and pauses to ensure the right conversation at the right time; implement routine reflect-and-adjust cycles.
83| Keep Ownership at the Right Level: How to Sustain Organizational Transformation [with Anna Pessah]
Q: Why is ownership so hard for internal change leaders and how do you see it operating at different levels?
Ownership should move down from executives to VP and chief/director levels, with each layer owning the health of their part of the system; internal consultants should mentor and enable rather than do the work, preserving leadership capability.
81| Adapt How You Lead: Situational Leadership in Practice [with Suzie Bishop]
Q: Tell us about the book you're working on with Marshall Goldsmith and how situational leadership informs that coaching approach.
The new coaching-focused project, called Match, extends situational leadership into situational coaching, emphasizing how to diagnose situations with questions and then adapt the coaching approach across all four styles to support performance and development without taking over ownership.
81| Adapt How You Lead: Situational Leadership in Practice [with Suzie Bishop]
Q: Before we go any further, how do you define Situational Leadership and what is it for those who haven't heard about it?
Situational Leadership is a framework that provides steps to deliver the right approach to someone when you are leading them, enabling you to apply the most effective leadership style by meeting people where they are and flexing as needed.

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