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Chain of Learning: Leadership Strategies for Continuous Improvement and Transformational Change

Katie Anderson
Continuous Improvement
Leadership
Toyota
Continuous Learning
Lean
Coaching Continuum
Organizational Culture
Coaching
Transformational Improvement Coach
Lean Leadership
Lean Management
Lean Thinking
Positioning
Problem-Solving Ownership
Learning Culture
Reflection
Organizational Development
Consulting
Change Leadership
Artificial Intelligence

Chain of Learning® is the trusted leadership podcast for transformational change leaders, Lean and operational excellence practitioners, and internal change agents who believe that people—not tools—are the foundation of sustainable results. If you’re committed to continuous improvement and continuous learning, and want to build a culture where teams are capable, confident, and empowered to solve p... more

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Latest Episodes

What does it really take to sustain a culture of continuous improvement –  through pressure for results, across generations, and into an era of AI?

In this final episode of my three-part series with John Shook, one of the most influential leaders an... more

Lean has always been about people. We just kept reaching for the tools, without understanding the human purpose behind them.

In part two of my three-part conversation with John Shook, we go behind the scenes of Toyota's culture and leadership — shar... more

Has lean really failed?

That question sparked one of the most listened-to conversations in the history of this podcast — my two-part series with Jim Womack in episodes 37 and 38.

When I sat down with John Shook — one of the most influential thought... more

The way you’re leading transformation might be getting in the way of the culture you’re trying to build.

As change leaders and practitioners, we care about results. But in that focus, it’s easy to stay on the outer work—processes, metrics, systems—a... more

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Recent Guests

John Shook
Lean thought leader, former president of the Lean Enterprise Institute
Lean Enterprise Institute
Episode: 75 | The Human Side of Lean: John Shook on Building Systems That Last (Part 2 of 3)
Richard Koch
Senior change leader with extensive experience in large, global organizations
Independent/Consultant (as discussed in episode)
Episode: 73 | Small Steps, Leading with Heart: How Transformation Sustains [with Richard Koch]
Betsy Jordyn
Business coach and strategic thinking partner
Episode: 72 | Finding Clarity Through the Messy Middle: Reflections from My Book Retreat [with Betsy Jordyn] (BONUS)
Nigel Thurlow
Consultant and systems thinker, former Toyota Chief of Agile
Former Toyota Chief of Agile; author and consultant
Episode: 70| Talk to the People: How Leaders Make Better Decisions [with Nigel Thurlow]
Barry O'Reilly
Bestselling author of Lean Enterprise and Unlearn; host of the Barry O'Reilly podcast
Author and change-leadership thinker
Episode: 69| Better Judgment, Not Better AI Tools: What Leaders Need to Learn and Unlearn [with Barry O'Reilly]
Carlos Scholz
CEO of Catalysis, dedicated to transforming healthcare.
Catalysis
Episode: 66| Leadership Is Practice: What It Takes to Lead Transformation as Responsibility Grows [with Carlos Scholz]
Jill Forrester
Director of Continuous Improvement at 3sHealth in Saskatchewan's Public Health Care System
3sHealth
Episode: 64| Stop Doing Transformation—and Start Enabling It: Redefine Your Role as a Change Leader [with Jill Forrester]
Rose Heathcote
Speaker, writer, and advisor focused on sustainability and improvement thinking.
Thinking People
Episode: 63| Close the Execution Gap: How Leaders Turn Sustainability Intent into Action [with Rose Heathcote]
Keeley Hurley
Co-author of Faceplant, Free Yourself from Failure's Funk, seasoned change leader supporting team navigation through challenges.
Episode: 60| Bounce Back From a Faceplant: How to Flip the Script on Failure [with Melisa Buie and Keeley Hurley]

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Katie Anderson
Host of Chain of Learning, author focused on people-centered leadership

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 70 ratings
  • A must-listen for people centered change leaders

    I’ve truly love the podcast — every time I listen, I think, wow, this feels like it was curated just for me. The themes around people-centered improvement and leadership development resonate deeply with the work I do.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    LeanLeah
    United States4 months ago
  • Feedback

    Hi Katie, happy birthday! Whilst all of the episodes have been very informative, the most transformative was Ep4 going from Doing to Being. Think it was a case of right time, right place, right headspace. It all clicked and now I conscientiously work and think differently as a consequence. Many thanks Owen Warlond

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    3 Chais Owen
    Australia4 months ago
  • Down to earth!

    I love that Katie and her guests are always very straightforward. Theory is clear, but the examples given support perfectly the theory, making it easier to project on how it could be applied in other situations.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Pedrôlaperks
    France7 months ago
  • Leading in learning!

    Katie’s podcast are top notch for anyone looking to develop a continuous improvement culture. By emphasizing on learning and developing people, she leads great conversations with influential guests. Thank you

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    DeG, N
    United Statesa year ago
  • Better than an MBA for manufacturing leaders…

    Katie’s ability to stimulate actionable conversations around culture, leadership, and continuous improvement within the complex industrial environment is next level. This show needs to be on every manufacturing leader's rotation.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    cjc91793
    United Statesa year ago

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Guests are consistently high-quality and relevant to continuous improvement and leadership development.

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76 | What Is the Purpose of Kaizen? John Shook Answers Your Questions (Part 3 of 3)
Q: Ian's question about how to decide when to stay patient with a long-term strategy versus accelerating change.
John argues that it is highly situational: in emergencies you must act; more generally, balance patience for learning and long-term goals with a bias for action, using lean tools to prevent premature conclusions while maintaining progress.
74 | What Problem Are We Solving? John Shook Reflects: Has Lean Failed? (Part 1 of 3)
Q: What question should we be asking instead of how many lean enterprises exist?
John suggests reframing to focus on how many people have been personally transformed by lean thinking, and how many success stories exist at the individual level, rather than chasing the appearance of large corporate empires.
69| Better Judgment, Not Better AI Tools: What Leaders Need to Learn and Unlearn [with Barry O'Reilly]
Q: Can you give an example of how AI can function as a thinking partner for executives?
Executives can use an AI bot to pressure-test hunches, explore options with three or more scenarios, and surface hidden assumptions, which helps them prepare for high-stakes meetings and present stronger, more informed recommendations.
69| Better Judgment, Not Better AI Tools: What Leaders Need to Learn and Unlearn [with Barry O'Reilly]
Q: How should leaders think about starting with AI—where to begin?
Begin by identifying your natural traits and the two or three high-leverage tasks in your week, then choose one or two tools that meaningfully support those tasks; avoid tool overload and focus on a design that elevates human abilities.
69| Better Judgment, Not Better AI Tools: What Leaders Need to Learn and Unlearn [with Barry O'Reilly]
Q: What are you seeing as some traits or examples of leaders who resist the identity shift toward more experimentation with AI?
Many resist by clinging to old success habits and relying on tenure or gut instinct; the antidote is recognizing that domain experience alone isn't the competitive edge anymore, and embracing unlearning plus machine-assisted information gathering accelerates learning and decision-making.

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This show centers on leadership, continuous improvement, and transformational change rooted in people-centered practices. Conversations thread together Lean thinking, learning cultures, and practical leadership development, highlighting how leaders at all levels enable problem-solving, collaboration, and sustainable performance. A standout feature is the blend of real-world stories with actionable frameworks (notably the emphasis on learning mindsets and practical coaching) and guests spanning Lean, healthcare, sustainability, and tech-adjacent transformation, which keeps it relevant for practitioners driving large-scale change. The host's approach—reflective, practical, and grounded in Toyota-inspired principles—offers listeners a clear pa... more

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