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About the Rest

Joe Rodriguez
CRNA
Anesthesia
Anesthesiology
American Association Of Nurse Anesthesiology
Motion
Covid-19
Healthcare Workforce Dynamics
Eric Rausch
Dee Bender
Northstar Anesthesia
Medgeo Ventures
Job Placement
Career Platform
Healthcare Industry
Private Equity In Healthcare
American Nurses Association
Nurse Anesthetists
Federal Trade Commission
Gaswork
Recruitment Advertising

I'm Joe Rodriguez, CRNA. After co-hosting the podcast Anesthesia Deconstructed for years, I kept running into the same problem. I was told that if I stayed clinically excellent and kept my head down, the rest would take care of itself. If you're reading this, you know all too well… IT DOES NOT. Unfortunately, time and time again, I discovered that the most impactful tools to leverage throughout my... more

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Joe Rodriguez sits down with Randy Moore and Tracy Young, to work through the week's hardest stories. Let the spicy takes flow!

Reimbursement: UnitedHealthcare stops paying for physical status. Oklahoma and Louisiana fight back with legislation. Tra... more

The FTC just notched its second win against the biggest roll-up in anesthesia history. Welsh Carson settled first. Now USAP. So who actually won, and who pays next?

Joe Rodriguez sits down with Randy Moore and Gary Keeling for the kind of conversati... more

Along life’s winding roads we’ve each worked tirelessly to hone our skills and ultimately become the excellent clinicians we are today. But what happens when being great in the OR isn't enough? Each week on About the Rest, Joe Rodriguez, DNAP, CRNA, ... more

Anesthesia Deconstructed is sunsetting, but the conversation is just getting started. Joe and Mike announce Joe’s new podcast, “About the Rest!” Get ready for the next chapter of critical career-driven discussions exploring the leadership, performanc... more

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Gary Keeling
Vice President of Anesthesia Services; seasoned executive in anesthesia operations
Unspecified in transcript (advisor/consultant in the segment)
Episode: Goliaths at War: The Fight Over Anesthesia
Paul Lefebvre
Lead claims professional and risk advisor
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Episode: Anesthesia Deconstructed: I Got Sued for Malpractice. Here’s What Really Happens.
Andrew Clark
Head of business development at Physicians Preferred Medical
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Episode: Anesthesia Deconstructed: I Got Sued for Malpractice. Here’s What Really Happens.
Chrissy Massaro
A CRNA and founder of Confident Care Academy, focusing on education for nurses and aspiring CRNAs.
Confident Care Academy
Episode: Anesthesia Deconstructed: From ICU to CRNA - How Social Media is Transforming Nursing Education
Dr. Jed Wolpaw
Academic anesthesiologist at Johns Hopkins and creator of Accrac podcast
Johns Hopkins
Episode: Anesthesia Deconstructed: Lifelong Learning - ACCRAC Founder Jed Wolpaw, MD, on Education, Growth, and Anesthesia Excellence
Scott Weevil
Legal expert with experience in Mergers and Acquisitions and physician contracts
Episode: Anesthesia Deconstructed: FTC Loses, and Non-Competes Remain - Understanding Different Types of Restrictive Covenants and What It Means for You
Erin Foley
Former Maine president, chair of the Leadership Identification Committee
American Nurses Association
Episode: Anesthesia Deconstructed: Point A - CRNAs Propose Significant Change to AANA Board Selection
Mark Heafey
Former vice president of the association, chair of the Leadership Identification Committee
American Nurses Association
Episode: Anesthesia Deconstructed: Point A - CRNAs Propose Significant Change to AANA Board Selection
Matt Mazurek
Assistant Professor of Anesthesiology at Yale School of Medicine, practicing anesthesiologist
Yale School of Medicine
Episode: Anesthesia Deconstructed: Should C-Sections Be Performed on an Outpatient Basis? Florida is going to find out.

Hosts

Joe Rodriguez
Co-host of Anesthesia Deconstructed; host of About the Rest; clinician-entrepreneur focusing on leadership and business in anesthesia.
Mike MacKinnon
Host and co-host across shows; experienced in anesthesia leadership discussions and business topics.

Reviews

4.7 out of 5 stars from 398 ratings
  • Keeps me informed, inspired, and proud to be a CRNA.

    I’ve been a CRNA for 13 years, and this podcast has quickly become one of my favorites! It offers insight into topics that impact our profession beyond the OR. After listening to multiple episodes, I feel more informed, empowered, and connected to the bigger picture of our practice. Thank you for the time, thought, and effort you put into each episode—it truly makes me and our profession stronger!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Azteresa
    United Statesa year ago
  • They Bring Exactly What Was Needed in the Professional Advanced Practice Space

    Anesthesia Deconstructed has been an essential, eye-opening resource for me over the past year. I first discovered Dr. Mike MacKinnon and Joe Rodriguez’s podcast after my very first anesthesia shadow experience with National University CRNA, and it immediately set the tone for how seriously I wanted to approach this profession.

    Unlike the typical clinical podcasts I was used to, Anesthesia Deconstructed tackles the legal, organizational, political, economic, and entrepreneurial realities of thi... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    N.p.rogress1
    United Statesa year ago
  • Great for CRNA profession

    Thank you for the podcast really interesting to listen to. Inspired me to look into national university CRNA program

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    MomoElite
    United States2 years ago
  • Information that needs to be heard

    This podcast gets real without sugar coating information that needs to be heard. Anyone in anesthesia needs to listen

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    thelifestylecrna
    United States3 years ago
  • One of my favorite podcasts

    I love the natural conversions and topics. I learn so much here. Thanks Joe and everyone!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    __dhani
    United States4 years ago

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The show is valued for candid, practical coverage of policy, market dynamics, and organizational strategy.
Some listeners note that the content is dense but highly valuable for industry professionals seeking deeper understanding of the field.
Listeners praise deep, actionable insights from guests and a clear focus on leadership and business in anesthesia.
Audience members appreciate the rigorous exploration of real-world challenges facing anesthesia leaders and practice owners.

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Goliaths at War: The Fight Over Anesthesia
Q: What do you think about the FTC case against USAP and its implications for market competition?
The guests view the FTC action as a catalyst illustrating the push-pull between competition and consolidation; while it creates short-term disruption, it may also prompt divestitures and a rebalancing of market share, ultimately affecting how hospitals recruit and structure anesthesia programs.
Anesthesia Deconstructed: I Thought We Were Winning. Then, We Got Fired: Essentials of Anesthesia Leadership
Q: What is the toolkit you use to take that potential and transform it into being an effective leader?
Dr. Rodriguez discusses frameworks such as 'Crucial Conversations', 'The Four Agreements', and 'Five Dysfunctions of a Team' as essential tools for developing leadership efficacy.
Anesthesia Deconstructed: What If the AANA Disappeared? Inside the CEO’s Role with Bill Bruce
Q: What is the most common myth or misunderstanding about what the AANA is doing well?
The biggest myth is that the AANA is only about advocacy and credit transfers; there's much more value in their events.
Anesthesia Deconstructed: Inside Anesthesia - What (Really) Broke the Anesthesia Market
Q: What kind of people are you no longer willing to build with?
I don't like to work with people who are not ambitious and avoid accountability but love the posture.
Anesthesia Deconstructed: From ICU to CRNA - How Social Media is Transforming Nursing Education
Q: What do you see as the future for Confident Care Academy?
Chrissy envisions creating an app for bedside nurses that provides an easily accessible clinical resource, developing a library of educational materials, and expanding a mentor network within the academy.

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Frequently Asked Questions About About the Rest

What is About the Rest about and what kind of topics does it cover?

This show targets anesthesia professionals looking to understand the business, leadership, and strategic side of the field. Across episodes, the discussions push beyond clinical technique to cover topics like money, negotiations, organizational structure, policy shifts, and leadership under pressure. Listeners often praise deep, candid conversations with industry voices, practical insights for running anesthesia programs or practices, and a willingness to tackle controversial or under-discussed realities. Noteworthy is the unapologetically strategic lens—the show blends personal experience with broader market context, making it valuable for those aiming to influence or navigate the economics of anesthesia leadership.

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2. Paul Lefebvre
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4. Chrissy Massaro
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7. Erin Foley
8. Mark Heafey

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