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An Imperfect Leader: The Superintendents and Leadership Podcast

Peter Stiepleman
Education
Leadership
Community Engagement
Educational Leadership
Equity In Education
School Leadership
School Culture
Public Education
Empathy
Education Reform
Inclusive Education
Superintendents
Covid-19
Trust
Artificial Intelligence
Education Policy
Student Agency
Empat Speech
AI In Education
Collaboration

Welcome to An Imperfect Leader: The Superintendents and Leadership Podcast, a series of conversations with leaders who look back at decisions they made and consider: * What happened? * What got overlooked? * What did they learn about relationships or what new relationships were formed? * What frustrated them? * What could they have done differently? * And in the end, what was something good that c... more

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Some conversations stay with you long after the recording ends. My conversation with Dr. Nyah Hamlett is one of those.

In this encore episode, Dr. Hamlett, former superintendent of Chapel Hill-Carrboro City Schools and now Chief Equity & Developme... more

📢 What an incredible conversation with Dr. Stephen Pruitt, President of the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools Commission on Colleges (SACSCOC).

🎧 In this encore episode, we dove deep into education, leadership, and driving real change... more

I am thrilled to share an encore release of a very special crossover episode between our podcast, An Imperfect Leader, and Mason Pashia's Getting Smart Podcast (also a proud member of the Podcasserole Network!). Together, we sit down with Dr. Jennife... more

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Some conversations stay with you long after the recording ends. My conversation with Dr. Nyah Hamlett is one of those.

In this encore episode, Dr. Hamlett, former superintendent of Chapel Hill-Carrboro City Schools and now Chief Equity & Developme... more

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Nyah Hamlett
Chief Equity and Development Officer, Montgomery County Public Schools (former Superintendent, Chapel Hill-Carrboro City Schools)
Montgomery County Public Schools
Episode: (VIDEO) Leading Without Flinching with Dr. Nyah Hamlett
Dr. James F. Lane
Former Superintendent of the Year for Virginia, Acting Assistant Secretary of the US Department of Education, author
Virginia Department of Education (former) / U.S. Department of Education (former)
Episode: (VIDEO) Laser Focus: James Lane and Cutting Through Initiative Fatigue to Save the Learning Moment
Dr. Anne LoBue
Senior Policy Analyst, Black Education Research Center, Teachers College, Columbia University
Columbia University
Episode: Beyond the Three-Year Myth: The Truth About the Superintendency
Dr. Christopher Tienken
Full Professor, Seton Hall University; Research Professor in Residence for AASA
Seton Hall University; AASA
Episode: Beyond the Three-Year Myth: The Truth About the Superintendency
Anne LoBue
Senior Policy Analyst at the Black Education Research Center, Columbia Teachers College
Columbia University
Episode: (VIDEO) Beyond the Three-Year Myth: Anne LoBue and Chris Tienken Share the Truth About the Superintendency
Christopher Tienken
Full professor at Seton Hall University; research professor in residence for AASA
Seton Hall University; AASA
Episode: (VIDEO) Beyond the Three-Year Myth: Anne LoBue and Chris Tienken Share the Truth About the Superintendency
Brian Stephens
Combat veteran, attorney, national advocate, leader of Caissa K-12
Caissa K-12
Episode: The Monopoly is Over: Brian Stephens and Why Public Schools Must Compete or Risk Becoming Dinosaurs
Zaretta Hammond
National Education Consultant and author
Culturally Responsive Teaching in the Brain / Rebuilding Students' Learning Power
Episode: (VIDEO) Zaretta Hammond on Reclaiming Cognitive Justice and the Power of the "First Pancake"
Melissa Sadorf
Executive Director of the National Rural Education Association
National Rural Education Association
Episode: Dr. Melissa Sadorf and Why Rural Schools are the Soul of Their Communities

Hosts

Peter Stiepleman
Host of the show focused on imperfect leadership and learning from past decisions.
Jamie Almanzán
Co-host providing interview support and collaboration on leadership discussions.

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 109 ratings
  • Podcast Famous!

    It was great to meet you in KC and thank you for the mention! Khris from GB

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Khris T.
    United States9 months ago
  • Good listen for educators

    Easy fun listen. Great guests and discussion.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Muad'Dib-joker
    United Statesa year ago
  • Thoughtful, engaging, tactical

    Peter has access to inspiring guests, and presents the perfect mix of personal and professional in his storytelling and moderating that allows us to connect with him, and with his guests. Really enjoyed the episode with Cape Girardo — thought leaders and pioneers of radical changes we desperately need to support not just students, but educators in the classroom by going phone free.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    killgirl-c
    United States2 years ago
  • Incentive to be better every day!

    Peter and his podcast are an embodiment of true education and what it means to be a lifelong learner. Recognizing that we’re all imperfect, even many of our role models, serves as a great reminder of why it’s unnecessary to dwell on our mistakes or let them hold us back. Instead, Peter and his guests encourage you to embrace those lessons and use them as incentive to be just a little bit better every day. As a former teacher myself, I only wish I had found this show sooner!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Michele510
    United States2 years ago
  • The HBR Leadership Podcast for Educational Leaders

    Dr. Stiepleman’s expertise and humanity come through in his interview style. He puts guests at ease and bonds with them to provide excellent practical advice for educational and systems-oriented leaders, and those aspiring to be.

    He guides his guests to embrace imperfect leadership and the decisions that come out of it. With vulnerability as the basis, this podcast is kind of a coaching conversation, where the listeners get to eavesdrop for free.

    I can say I have adopted ideas shared by his a... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Jc Nnz
    United States2 years ago

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Many praise the breadth of guest expertise, including governance, rural education, and systems thinking, and the host's ability to facilitate reflective dialogue.
Listeners appreciate vulnerability and candor in guests, describing conversations as coaching-style and deeply actionable.
Audience notes the show is highly practical and leadership-focused, with tangible takeaways for veteran leaders and aspiring superintendents alike.

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(VIDEO) Leading Without Flinching with Dr. Nyah Hamlett
Q: What was the most impactful after-action reflection from this experience?
The after-action reflection highlighted humility and accountability, noting that courage over convenience requires prioritizing safety and the well-being of staff and students, and that leadership is relational, not only positional.
(VIDEO) Leading Without Flinching with Dr. Nyah Hamlett
Q: What happened during the classroom safety incident and what did you learn about systems and communication?
I learned that I reacted rather than directly engaging the school leader, relied on intermediaries, and neglected a direct restorative conversation, which eroded trust. The takeaway is to lead with the school leader, communicate transparently, and center relationships in crisis response.
(VIDEO) Leading Without Flinching with Dr. Nyah Hamlett
Q: How have you ensured that students feel truly heard and part of decision-making processes?
Student engagement was embedded in decision making; high school Equity and Empathy Ambassadors helped lead focus groups, review policies, and advise on major initiatives, with their voices treated as central to policy development rather than tokens.
(VIDEO) Leading Without Flinching with Dr. Nyah Hamlett
Q: Would you talk a little about the Don't Flinch Leadership philosophy and how it's helped you in your own leadership?
Dont Flinch Leadership is about standing firm in your core values, leading authentically, and staying steady under pressure, choosing courage over convenience, especially on equity and student voice. It also means not shrinking yourself to make others comfortable and approaching difficult conversations with humility and empathy.
Laser Focus: James Lane and Cutting Through Initiative Fatigue to Save the Learning Moment
Q: What happened with the cut score decision and how did you handle it?
Lane described trying to raise the cut score based on data, facing opposition from the board and district leaders, ultimately seeing the decision pass despite his recommendation, and choosing to communicate the outcomes with clarity and support rather than arguing that the decision was wrong.

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A thoughtful, practitioner-focused series that features superintendents, district leaders, and education innovators reflecting on decisions, relationships, and leadership imperfection. Episodes center on real-world schooling challenges—from enrollment and governance to building culture, shared leadership, and ethical use of AI in education. Guests bring hands-on experience with rural districts, large urban systems, school boards, and innovative school models like small learning communities. The show stands out for its candid conversations about mistakes, vulnerability, and practical lessons that listeners can apply to their own leadership journeys, often framed as a coaching-style dialogue rather than a one-way interview.

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