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At the intersection of AI and law, the ground is shifting faster than almost anyone can keep up with. Hosted by Irene Liu of Stanford Law School’s AI Initiative, AI Sidebar brings together leading academics, technologists, policymakers, lawyers, and industry leaders to unpack where AI is headed and what it means for law, business, society, and all of us. From the heart of the Bay Area, where AI is... more

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For product lawyers, the agentic era is changing more than the tools; it is changing how products are built, how risks surface, and how legal advice reaches the business. And who better to explore that shift than the creator of Claude for Legal and a... more

What does it mean for quality, legal expertise, and judgment when law professors actually prefer AI answers over answers written by other law professors in a blind study?

In this episode of AI Sidebar, Irene Liu talks with Stanford Law Professor Jul... more

Legal teams are not just adopting AI tools, they need to reimagine the work; who should do the work, how it should be done, and what should be redesigned entirely.

In this episode, host Irene Liu sits down with Mary O’Carroll, CEO of LegalEng Consul... more

How can Chief Legal Officers lead AI transformation in ways that are strategic, practical, and tied to how legal work actually gets done?

In this episode of AI Sidebar, host Irene Liu sits down with April Miller Boise, former executive vice presiden... more

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Mark Pike
Associate General Counsel at Anthropic and creator of Claude for Legal
Anthropic
Episode: How Agentic AI Is Redefining the Role of the Product Counsel
Julian Nyarko
Professor at Stanford Law; Director of Lift Lab
Stanford Law School
Episode: When AI Answers Beat Law Professors: What It Means for Lawyers and Law Schools
Mary O'Carroll
CEO of LegalEng Consulting Group, legal operations leader
LegalEng Consulting Group
Episode: Legal Engineers: The New AI Role Reshaping Law
April Miller Boise
Executive vice president and chief legal officer of Intel (former)
Intel
Episode: CLO playbook: Leading through AI and Corporate Transformation
George Triantis
Dean of Stanford Law School
Stanford Law School
Episode: Law Schools in the Age of AI

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Irene Liu
Host of AI Sidebar, executive director of the AI Initiative at Stanford Law School

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Legal Engineers: The New AI Role Reshaping Law
Q: Do you imagine legal operations professionals will need to become legal engineers, or should organizations hire separately for that role?
There is overlap, but the best approach is a blended model where core legal operations skills remain, while specialized legal engineering or solutions engineering capability is grown—either internally by upskilling or by bringing in people who can map workflows, map requirements, and implement AI-enabled processes.
Legal Engineers: The New AI Role Reshaping Law
Q: So in all of these roles, how should the legal operations team evolve in this age of AI?
The evolution hinges on expanding from traditional operations to a broader capability set that includes re-imagining how work is done, embedding AI thoughtfully, and developing people with both process and technical fluency to design better outcomes, not just faster tasks.
Law Schools in the Age of AI
Q: How are students being prepared for an AI-enabled profession, and what makes foundational skills durable?
Curriculum emphasizes adaptability and exposure to multiple AI tools, not just prompt engineering. Doctrinal analysis and statutory analysis remain foundational, while students practice evaluating tools, maintaining a human in the loop, and developing judgment, ethics, and professional responsibility.
Law Schools in the Age of AI
Q: How is AI becoming a priority at Stanford Law School, and what drove that decision?
The dean explains that AI is pervasive across research and teaching, and Stanford's dual mission—to train students for practice and to study AI's impact on law—naturally leads to prioritizing AI. The AI Initiative was created as a hub to align disparate AI activities, amplify efforts, and foster collaboration with industry, government, and global partners.
CLO playbook: Leading through AI and Corporate Transformation
Q: How did AI move from awareness to experimentation within your team, and was AI part of your core business strategy?
AI quickly became a central part of the technology roadmap. The CLO led the effort, remapped workflows, and used strategy-on-a-page to explain how AI would improve efficiency. AI sprints and targeted training accelerated practical adoption across the organization.

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A technical yet accessible look at how artificial intelligence intersects with law, business, and policy. Across episodes, listeners follow in-depth conversations with academics, practitioners, and industry leaders about how AI tools reshape legal practice, education, and corporate governance. Core themes include testing AI against real legal tasks, designing new AI-enabled roles like legal engineers, and managing transformation in large enterprises through strategy, governance, and human-centered approaches. Noteworthy is the focus on accountability, ethics, and professional responsibility as AI reshapes what lawyers do and how organizations operate, with practical takeaways for curriculum design, workflow redesign, and cross-functional co... more

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