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AI After Dark

Alex Gras
Artificial Intelligence
HVAC
Smartac
Unlimited AI
Cooklist
Blockchain
CIA
Collide
Education Technology
Nutiliti
Utilities
RIA (registered Investment Advisor)
Agentic Workflows
Dreambase AI
Moshi
Energy Trading
Financial Markets
Data Analytics
Cybersecurity
Recruiting Industry

AI After Dark is a podcast hosted by Alex Gras, venture capitalist at Mercury, focused on how real companies are built once the hype fades and the hard decisions begin. Through candid conversations with founders, CTOs, and operators, the show cuts through buzzwords to talk about people, systems, risk, and the trade-offs that actually matter. Alex brings a background as an operator, founder, and re... more

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From a food startup that accidentally became a catering company, to a fitness business he sold, to a real estate tool launching now, Nathaniel McNamara has surfed every tech wave since the first web browser. Building Dealyo, he gets into why focus be... more

What happens when the models keep doubling and you have to bet your whole company on where they land? Daniel Vitiello of Cooklist Inc. gets into building AI native from day one, why his rule is to never delegate understanding, and how the right harne... more

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Ashley Vaughan spent years inside the CIA running cyber ops before realizing the tools meant to keep clandestine work invisible were leaving fingerprints all over the blockchain. Now she is building Numan, a stealth startup using AI and crypto rails ... more

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Seven years trading at JP Morgan, a Fulbright scholarship to the US, and one circled line in a careers book at Warwick. Anekha Sokhal, Founder and Machine Learning Engineer at Moshi, walks through how she's building an AI-native analyst platform for ... more

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Going from designer to CTO sounds like an impossible career pivot, but Kyle Ledbetter, Co-Founder and CTO of Dreambase, walks through how AI handed him the permission slip he didn't know he needed. We get into building a Dream Team of data agents on ... more

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Hunter Honnessy, CTO and Co-Founder at Unlimited.ai, gets into what defensibility actually looks like when anyone can vibe code a SaaS over a weekend. Conversation runs through building moats with data plus intelligence layers, why finance software d... more

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Alex Gras sits down with Gustavo Herrera, Founder and CTO of Knowme Global, to talk through why recruiting still sucks and how AI might actually fix it by doing the one thing everyone avoids, sitting down and talking to people for two hours. Gustavo ... more

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Bowden Kelly from Nutiliti joins Alex on AI After Dark to explain why being a fast follower beats bleeding-edge adoption, particularly when your customers just want accurate utility bills paid on time and don't care about your tech stack. He breaks d... more

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Kyle Ledbetter
CTO of Dreambase AI
Dreambase AI
Episode: How AI Turned a Designer Into a CTO
Hunter Honnessy
CTO of Unlimited AI
Unlimited AI
Episode: Why This AI Startup Doesn't Use AI For Math
Gustavo Herrera
CTO of Knowme
Knowme
Episode: How AI Cut Hiring From 42 Days To An Afternoon
Bowden Kelly
CTO and co-founder of Nutiliti
Nutiliti
Episode: The Best AI Product Is The One You Never Log Into
Matt Robillard
CTO of SmartAC
SmartAC
Episode: How AI Could Turn 100,000 Homes Into A Power Plant

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Host of AI After Dark, guiding interviews with founders and operators in technology and AI

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How AI Agents Are Changing Grocery Shopping Forever
Q: What is the core product in Cooklist today?
Cooklist offers three core products: an AI shopping assistant that personalizes responses using transaction history, agentic search that decomposes user queries into subcomponents for precise results, and agentic merchandising that optimizes how products are presented to shoppers; all are supported by a harness that validates data before presenting results to the user.
How AI Agents Are Changing Grocery Shopping Forever
Q: How is AI changing how Cooklist operates today?
The guest explains that Cooklist started with traditional ML but has moved toward agentic AI, where an AI system with multiple tools can autonomously decide what actions to take, while humans still review and guide the outcomes, enabling faster experimentation and more scalable decision-making.
How AI Cut Hiring From 42 Days To An Afternoon
Q: Give me a real example of how Knowme speeds up the hiring process.
The platform stores long-form interviews, allows natural-language search over candidate data, and lets employers interview and assess multiple candidates in a single afternoon, drastically reducing the traditional 42-day timeline.
Why The First Hire For An AI Startup Isn't An AI Engineer
Q: What does the term AI native mean to you, and what barriers prevent teams from starting the journey?
AI native refers to building products and workflows around AI capabilities from the ground up, and barriers include a lack of space to learn, unclear architecture, and the need for a team that can translate industry problems into software-ready requirements.
Why The First Hire For An AI Startup Isn't An AI Engineer
Q: How do you see oil and gas professionals fitting into the AI picture, and are there plans to let industry experts help train these models?
Industry experts can contribute by validating workflows and providing feedback used to train reinforcement learning models; Collide plans to involve its community to train and validate model outputs, ensuring domain accuracy and practical usefulness.

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AI After Dark provides candid conversations with founders, CTOs, and operators about how real companies scale beyond hype. Episodes center on building durable products, navigating talent and organizational design, and balancing human judgment with AI-enabled workflows across industries like energy trading, HVAC, recruiting, and fintech. The show tends to emphasize pragmatic product strategy, risk management, and the trade-offs involved in moving from dashboards to AI-native capabilities, with a builder-centric perspective that's useful for leaders shaping technology-driven teams.

A notable throughline is the focus on practical implementation over buzzwords: creating defensible tech with data, aligning architecture with business goals, and ... more

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