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Cybersecurity
Social Engineering
Artificial Intelligence
Phishing
Open Source Intelligence
Voice Cloning
Disinformation
Ethics
Deep Fakes
Folklore
Cognitive Security
Zero Trust
Cybersecurity Skills Gap
Penetration Testing
Digital Trust
Synthetic Media
Deepfake Technology
Money Laundering
Human Content Detection
Privacy

Get ready for a deep dive into what cybersecurity professionals often refer to as the "8th Layer" of security: HUMANS. Welcome to 8th Layer Insights (8Li). This podcast is a multidisciplinary exploration into how the complexities of human nature affect security and risk. Author, security researcher, and behavior science enthusiast Perry Carpenter taps experts for their insights and illumination. T... more

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Hey folks! It's been a few weeks, but now the gift is here. :) It's the 7th installment of the "Cognitive Heists" series. This one is titled, "The Trojan Gift." 🎁

Not all traps look like traps. Some arrive with a bow on top.

The Trojan Horse is th... more

Some cons don’t succeed because of the smooth-talking seller. Instead, they succeed because of the crowd.

Enter The Shill -- a hidden accomplice pretending to be just another customer, audience member, or lucky passerby. They're in the crowd, acting... more

Welcome to Deceptive Minds - An audio newsletter about how we are fooled, how we fool ourselves, and what we can do about it.

This one is all about "The Long Con."

When the lie moves in next door.

Not every con kicks down the door. Some knock poli... more

👻 New Deceptive Minds issue: Cognitive Heist series issue #4 -- The Ghost

The ghost doesn’t break in. It doesn’t even exist. It just panics you into acting-- fast, unthinking, exposed.

This issue explores one of the most dangerous tools in a scamm... more

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Recent Guests

Erin West
Director of Operation Shamrock, specializing in combatting fraud schemes
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Episode: The FAIK Files | The Butcher Will Scam You Now
Justin Hutchins
Author of The Language of Deception
Episode: The FAIK Files | A Hunch about Hutch
Dr. Bilyana Lilly
A cybersecurity expert with over 20 years in international security and defense and author of the book, Digital Mindhunters.
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Episode: Digital Mindhunters
Ed Skoudis
President of the SANS Technology Institute, co-author of 'The Code of Honor: Embracing Ethics in Cybersecurity'
SANS Technology Institute
Episode: What About Ethics?
Jon Gillham
Founder and CEO of originality.ai
originality.ai
Episode: Can You Really Tell if Something is Written by an AI?
Geoff White
Investigative journalist and author
Author of "Rinsed" and other works
Episode: Money Laundering 101: a chat with Investigative Journalist Geoff White
George Finney
Chief Security Officer for Southern Methodist University and author of 'Project Zero Trust' and 'Well Aware'
Southern Methodist University
Episode: Communicating Complex Topics with Creativity and Passion
Rachel Tobac
CEO of Social Proof Security, an ethical hacker and expert in social engineering
Social Proof Security
Episode: How Rachel Tobac Hacked Me
Dr. Matthew Canham
Expert in cognitive security and attacks against generative AI
Episode: How AI Can Deceive and be Deceived

Host

Perry Carpenter
Perry Carpenter is a security researcher, author, and host known for his focus on the nuances of deception, human behavior, and cybersecurity. He draws on multidisciplinary insights to engage listeners and illuminate the complexities around human factors in security contexts.

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 137 ratings
  • Great multidisciplinary show

    Entertaining and educating, great work!

    Apple Podcasts
    4
    D0ldr
    Sweden2 years ago
  • Great show!

    Find this show engaging and thought provoking. Enjoy the way that he dives into different aspects of the 8th layer and makes you think of different way you can change things in your organization or your own lives.

    Great work!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Tumun
    Australia3 years ago
  • A very big Thank you!

    to the Team behind this Podcast which, from my perspective, everybody should listen to. It’s fascinating how you share and present the results of a sure hard research work! Please never stop this important work! Greetings from Bavaria (Germany). Cheers

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    1978ol
    Germany3 years ago
  • Excellent! (From an interviewee)

    I got to work with Perry on the “Creativity for Non-Creatives” episode, and I was struck with how insightful his questions are, how curious he is, and how much care he puts into the process. In addition, he’s got a great presence and top-notch production values.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    RobDircks
    United States4 years ago
  • Informative, Educational & Inspirational

    Perry Carpenter does it again! The author of two awesome books (they’re on Amazon) he provides incredible insights in security culture, human behaviors and what it takes to secure your organization and personal lives! This is worth an hour of your time whenever it is released! You won’t be disappointed! That and his sound guy Carl is a good source of laughs!!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    JRMScooter
    United States4 years ago

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Listeners express a strong appreciation for the blend of humor with serious subject matter, making complex topics more accessible.
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Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

The FAIK Files | A Hunch about Hutch
Q: How do you go about creating a new adversarial agent?
Start with boilerplate code connecting to the OpenAI API and create an initial message to inform the model of its objective and engage the target.
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Q: What tools or frameworks can someone use to think like a futurist?
Tools include looking back to understand trends and changes in the past to forecast the future, and importance of listening to customers’ experiences and needs.
Frame the Future: The Art of Becoming a Futurist
Q: What is important about bringing the human element to the center of technology transformation?
Understanding individuals enhances the effectiveness of technology solutions and ensures a positive holistic experience.
How Rachel Tobac Hacked Me
Q: What are some misconceptions or myths that you would like to clarify for people?
Rachel clarifies that a password manager is not putting all your eggs in one basket and is actually a secure method if used properly, as opposed to reusing passwords.
How Rachel Tobac Hacked Me
Q: Where do you think the advance of Gen. AI and AI and machine learning is going to take us in the future with social engineering?
Rachel Tobac explains that attacks using deepfake audio and video scams are likely to become more common due to AI making them more believable and scalable.

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Focusing on the increasingly important role of human behavior in cybersecurity, insightful discussions explore a variety of topics including psychological manipulation, social engineering tactics, and emotional decision-making processes. The host engages with a range of experts, drawing on their experiences and knowledge to address the challenges and complexities faced in the realm of security. Episodes often feature historical examples and practical strategies aimed at enhancing awareness and understanding of deceptive practices in the digital age. The podcast stands out for its unique blend of educational content, engaging storytelling, and high production values, providing listeners with valuable insights that are relevant across discipl... more

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2. Justin Hutchins
3. Dr. Bilyana Lilly
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7. George Finney
8. Rachel Tobac

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