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80,000 Hours Podcast

The 80,000 Hours team
Artificial Intelligence
AI Safety
Artificial General Intelligence
Openai
Effective Altruism
Mental Health
Consciousness
AI Alignment
Anthropic
Economic Inequality
Nuclear Weapons
AI Welfare
Sentience
AI Governance
China
Google Deepmind
Animal Ethics
Misalignment Risks
Anxiety
Depression

The most important conversations about artificial intelligence you won’t hear anywhere else. Subscribe by searching for '80000 Hours' wherever you get podcasts. Hosted by Rob Wiblin, Luisa Rodriguez, Zershaaneh Qureshi, and Tom Reed.

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China’s best models are only six months behind America’s, despite having far less computing power. How is that possible?

Luisa Rodriguez investigates, and finds that much of China’s progress is made by using American chips and copying American model... more

We make a lot of episodes about AI these days. We recently picked out the best 10 episodes of the show to really help deepen your understanding of AI and AGI and superintelligence and recursive self-improvement — and the impact all of those things mi... more

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This is an (unpaid) cross-post of an episode from the podcast NonZero, which Rob Wiblin thought you might be interested in. The originals are on the NonZero website: Part 1 and Part 2. If you like it and want more similar stuff in the future, conside... more

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The big 3 AI companies all had serious scandals last month. Anthropic pushed a federal AI bill that would make it harder to stop dangerous model training. OpenAI fired three safety researchers based on evidence that’s somewhere between weak and nonex... more

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Recent Guests

Jeremie Harris
CEO and co-founder of Gladstone AI and co-host of Last Week in AI
Gladstone AI
Episode: An AI disaster hits. The president calls Xi. Then what? | Jeremie Harris (crosspost from NonZero)
Luke Muehlhauser
AI governance and international policy grantmaker, formerly executive director of the Machine Intelligence Research Institute
Coefficient Giving
Episode: Luke Muehlhauser on the most important AI safety work nobody is doing
Tom Milton
CEO of Amodo Design, a UK hardware lab building tools for AI verification and scientific research
Amodo Design
Episode: #257 – Tom Milton on how we could verify a US–China deal on AI
Ajeya Cotra
Senior research analyst at Open Philanthropy
Open Philanthropy
Episode: In 2023 Ajeya Cotra already knew what was coming (classic episode)
Simon Goldstein
Researcher focused on AI safety and the philosophy of AI
Independent/Collaborator with Peter Salib
Episode: #256 – Simon Goldstein on the case for giving AI (some) legal rights
Tom Davidson
Senior Research Fellow at Forethought
Forethought
Episode: #255 – Will AI take power — or will humans use it to take power first? With Katja Grace and Tom Davidson
Katja Grace
Co-founder of AI Impacts; lead researcher on AI trajectories and risks
AI Impacts
Episode: #255 – Will AI take power — or will humans use it to take power first? With Katja Grace and Tom Davidson
Max Nadeau
Founder/Executive at Coefficient Giving (Tailwind initiative)
Coefficient Giving
Episode: #254 – Max Nadeau on why ambitious people should start AI safety nonprofits
Daniel Kokotajlo
Author of AI 2027 and AI 2040 Plan A proposers
AI research and policy collaboration
Episode: #253 – AI 2027's author returns with a plan to change the ending | Daniel Kokotajlo

Hosts

Rob Wiblin
Host of AI safety and policy discussions with a technical and policy-focused lens.
Luisa Rodriguez
Co-host focusing on practical implications of AI governance and public communication.
Zershaaneh Qureshi
Co-host with focus on policy, ethics, and the societal implications of AI.
Tom Reed
Co-host contributing expertise on policy and practical impact of AI governance.

Reviews

4.7 out of 5 stars from 1.3k ratings
  • used to be amazing, now it’s just about AI

    you guys should consider the massive opportunity cost of all the good work not featured anymore just so you can feature AI all day long

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    1234_Nick_1234
    Germanya month ago
  • Giving AI a bank account…owning property…

    I was on board with these ideas until you spent nearly 2 hours interacting with your latest guest. Please, stop anthropomorphizing this technology. It is not human. To even consider it having intelligence is a joke.

    Any appearance of human behavior is a side effect of these LLMs being…human language models. Maybe they can problem solve more efficiently, now and in the future, but the idea that these machines should ever have similar rights to humans is an insane idea. Might as well allow dogs a... more

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    🤙🤙👏💄❤️‍🩹⛈
    United Statesa month ago
  • Good content but respect my time

    You really need to hire an editor. Not everything that comes out of your guests mouth is gold. A good editor would help convey the main point while maintaining quality and respecting the audience’s time.

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    Samandthepuppies
    United Kingdom2 months ago
  • Ho Hum

    There are soooo many podcasts talking about AI… do we really need another one?

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    Ricky R Richard
    United States2 months ago
  • Needs a Mission

    This podcast started talking about careers, then seemed to do a random walk through other topics, to end up in the land of AI speculation. They really need to define a mission and stick with it.

    Far too much content to actually be useful. Less quantity and more quality.

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    Different_Drummer
    United States4 months ago

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Occasional criticism centers on pacing and focus shifting toward AI-centric globalization topics.
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Quality of guests and production is often praised, with strong perceived intellectual credibility.

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An AI disaster hits. The president calls Xi. Then what? | Jeremie Harris (crosspost from NonZero)
Q: Do you think the logical big first step is a pause on big training runs?
Harris agrees that large training runs are a practical first target because compute infrastructure is costly, concentrated, and comparatively visible. He says monitoring should focus on data centers, chips, and power.
An AI disaster hits. The president calls Xi. Then what? | Jeremie Harris (crosspost from NonZero)
Q: What do you think the discourse is still not catching up to, and will it take more jolting incidents to get it where you want it to be?
Harris argues that people still underestimate the continued effectiveness of scaling. He expects further incidents and believes an exceptionally severe event could force the US government to regulate or slow AI development and engage China.
Luke Muehlhauser on the most important AI safety work nobody is doing
Q: Have your views changed at all since, I guess, less than a year ago?
Muehlhauser says his estimate shifted to an 80% chance of top human expert-dominating AI between 2028 and 2048, with a median around 2033 or 2034. He cites analysis from colleagues, AI-company revenue growth, and his experience using coding models.
Luke Muehlhauser on the most important AI safety work nobody is doing
Q: What is your sense of the situation at the moment?
Muehlhauser sees a more receptive policy environment and concrete safety progress, but says crucial institutions and projects are missing. He identifies founders and grant investigators, rather than funding, as major bottlenecks and urges people to move into AI safety and governance.
#257 – Tom Milton on how we could verify a US–China deal on AI
Q: What needs to happen between now and a moment where we could actually use some of these prototypes, use some of these technologies to verify a literal deal between the US and China?
The prototypes need to be tested and red-teamed by AI companies and governments, security-tested, manufactured at scale, and trusted by the parties. Milton says that work needs to begin early because hardware development has long lead times.

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