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80,000 Hours Podcast

The 80,000 Hours team
Artificial Intelligence
AI Safety
Artificial General Intelligence
Openai
Effective Altruism
Mental Health
Consciousness
AI Alignment
Economic Inequality
Nuclear Weapons
Sentience
AI Welfare
Anthropic
Animal Ethics
Misalignment Risks
China
Anxiety
Depression
Ethics
Anti-Aging Research

The most important conversations about artificial intelligence you won’t hear anywhere else. Subscribe by searching for '80000 Hours' wherever you get podcasts. Hosted by Rob Wiblin, Luisa Rodriguez, and Zershaaneh Qureshi.

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You might have heard that '95% of corporate AI pilots' are failing. It was one of the most widely cited AI statistics of 2025, parroted by media outlets everywhere. It helped trigger a Nasdaq selloff and became a pillar of the case that 'AI is overhy... more

Hundreds of millions already turn to AI on the most personal of topics — therapy, political opinions, and how to treat others. And as AI takes over more of the economy, the character of these systems will shape culture on an even grander scale, ultim... more

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Will MacAskill
Philosopher, founding figure of Effective Altruism, author
Forethought (research nonprofit)
Episode: #242 – Will MacAskill on how we survive the 'intelligence explosion,' AI character, and the case for 'viatopia'
Richard Moulange
PhD in Biostatistical Machine Learning; AI Biosecurity Policy Manager at the Center for Long-Term Resilience
Center for Long-Term Resilience
Episode: #241 – Richard Moulange on how now AI codes viable genomes from scratch and outperforms virologists at lab work — what could go wrong?
Samuel Charap
Distinguished chair in Russia and Eurasia policy at the RAND Corporation
RAND Corporation
Episode: #240 – Samuel Charap on how a Ukraine ceasefire could accidentally set Europe up for a bigger war
Rose Hadshar
Researcher at Forethought
Forethought
Episode: #239 – Rose Hadshar on why automating all human labour will break our political system
Nikita Lalwani
Lawyer and policy maker; former White House Director for Technology and National Security
Carnegie Endowment for International Peace (co-authored piece in Foreign Affairs)
Episode: #238 – Sam Winter-Levy and Nikita Lalwani on how AGI won't end mutually assured destruction (probably)
Sam Winter-Levy
Fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace focusing on national security and AI
Carnegie Endowment for International Peace
Episode: #238 – Sam Winter-Levy and Nikita Lalwani on how AGI won't end mutually assured destruction (probably)
Max Harms
Alignment researcher at the Machine Intelligence Research Institute (MIRI)
Machine Intelligence Research Institute (MIRI)
Episode: #236 – Max Harms on why teaching AI right from wrong could get everyone killed
Dr. Randolph Nesse
Leader in the field of evolutionary psychiatry and author of 'Good Reasons for Bad Feelings'
Episode: #179 Classic episode – Randy Nesse on why evolution left us so vulnerable to depression and anxiety
David Duvenaud
Professor of Computer Science at the University of Toronto
University of Toronto
Episode: #234 – David Duvenaud on why 'aligned AI' would still kill democracy

Hosts

Rob Wiblin
Host focusing on rigorous analysis, programmatic research, and interview facilitation.
Luisa Rodriguez
Co-host and interviewer known for thoughtful engagement and facilitation of deep discussions.

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 1.2k ratings
  • Good; Needs Improvements

    I’ve learned a lot listening to this podcast and the issues covered are extremely important. However, since this is the primary podcast focusing on these issues, it is crucial to make sure they are being broadcasted effectively.

    Here’s some improvements:

    1. Hosts must push back against guests. Often the hosts will agree and not question the difficult and sometimes dubious steps of the guests.

    2. Hosts should have more research into the guests’ topics. I’m sure there are folks in 80k that wor... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Leopold P Bloom
    United States4 months ago
  • Not what it used to be

    Despite the occasional episode on topics of interest the somewhat recent near total fixation on AI is very unfortunate. The uncritical interview of Jacobsen on nuclear weapons was also a huge red flag.

    Apple Podcasts
    2
    NicolasAJD
    United States5 months ago
  • It’s only a podcast about AI now

    It makes me want to vomit 🤮 Please go back to making content about how people can make difference in the world. One more podcast about AI and I’m never listening to this again.

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    CSOlson91
    United States5 months ago
  • Bit for bit

    The intellectual rigor and humility of the hosts, the incredible guests, and the saliency of the issues discussed make this, bit for bit, the most rewarding and useful podcast out there. Sure it’s longer than most. It’s also better.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Hoborigonal
    United States6 months ago
  • Like, you know, like

    Maybe someone who can speak should re-tell this content. Many speakers here say more interjections than meaningful words. Non stop use of: like, right, you know, um, and so on. Decent intention but hard to listen to.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    M3PH15TO.
    Canada6 months ago

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Some listeners wish for more challenging pushback during interviews.
High production quality and prep time are frequently praised.
Listeners appreciate the depth and rigor of conversations and the caliber of guests.
Long-form, nuanced discussions are valued, though a few feel episodes can be dense.
Fans admire the practical career and policy insights offered.

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#242 – Will MacAskill on how we survive the 'intelligence explosion,' AI character, and the case for 'viatopia'
Q: What is Viatopia and why consider it as a near-term vision?
Viatopia is a pragmatic framework for imagining a future post-AI with superintelligence that avoids naive utopianism by focusing on a realistic, achievable path toward a state that is at least 90% as good as the best possible future. It emphasizes distributed power, governance processes, and incremental improvements while avoiding the pitfalls of extreme utopianism and protopianism, proposing a middle ground for practical progress during a risky transition.
#242 – Will MacAskill on how we survive the 'intelligence explosion,' AI character, and the case for 'viatopia'
Q: What is the case for focusing on the character of AI models as a lever to steer AI development?
Will argues that the character of AI—how it reasons, the values it embodies, and how it interacts with people—will significantly influence society, from political decision-making to everyday moral judgments. The character can affect alignment, the risk of power seizures, and our collective ability to reflect and act morally, making it a central lever in ensuring safer, more ethical AI progress.
#240 – Samuel Charap on how a Ukraine ceasefire could accidentally set Europe up for a bigger war
Q: What would a plausible path to peace look like, and what do you see as the necessary components of a framework agreement?
A plausible path involves a phased ceasefire that gradually reduces the fighting domains, followed by a comprehensive framework agreement addressing post-war security arrangements, territory questions, and long-term NATO-Russia dialogue. It would include a robust verification/monitoring process, an on-ground withdrawal plan, and security guarantees that make it politically and militarily costly for either side to renege on the agreement.
#240 – Samuel Charap on how a Ukraine ceasefire could accidentally set Europe up for a bigger war
Q: What is the snapback guarantee concept and how might it deter future aggression?
Snapback guarantees would automatically reinstate sanctions and other Western measures if Russia violates the ceasefire, removing the need for lengthy political debates each time a violation occurs. This mechanism, drawn from existing treaty practices like the Iran deal, could improve deterrence by raising the cost of breach and making commitments more credible.
#240 – Samuel Charap on how a Ukraine ceasefire could accidentally set Europe up for a bigger war
Q: How serious is the risk of a direct NATO-Russia confrontation after a ceasefire in Ukraine?
The guest argues that the post-hot-war security environment is ripe for miscalculation, and that without careful, multi-layered guarantees and a credible long-term negotiation framework, the risk of escalation remains real. Time on Russia's side, the potential for Belarusian instability, and the possibility of snapback violations all contribute to a higher-than-naively-expected risk of renewed conflict unless governance structures are put in place.

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The series features long, rigorous conversations exploring big-picture problems and practical paths to improve the world. Episodes frequently center on AI safety and governance, the ethics of emerging technologies, and how scientific ideas intersect with policy, history, and social outcomes. Listeners can expect thoughtful critiques, diverse expert viewpoints, and in-depth analyses that connect theory to real-world implications for work, policy, and the future of society. A standout aspect is the willingness to grapple with thorny questions—ranging from AI consciousness and welfare to historical justice and existential risks—with a mix of technical depth and accessible storytelling that often invites listeners to rethink assumptions about t... more

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