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80,000 Hours Podcast

The 80,000 Hours team
Artificial Intelligence
AI Safety
Artificial General Intelligence
Openai
Effective Altruism
Mental Health
Consciousness
AI Alignment
Economic Inequality
Nuclear Weapons
Anthropic
Sentience
AI Welfare
Animal Ethics
Google Deepmind
Misalignment Risks
China
Anxiety
Depression
Ethics

The most important conversations about artificial intelligence you won’t hear anywhere else. Subscribe by searching for '80000 Hours' wherever you get podcasts. Hosted by Rob Wiblin, Luisa Rodriguez, and Zershaaneh Qureshi.

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Imagine you’re living 15,000 years ago. Your people are hunter-gatherers and you sleep under the stars. If someone told you humans would one day build cities with millions of people, fly through the air, or carry all human knowledge in their pockets,... more

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What actually makes a job fulfilling? It's not what most career advice tells you. "Follow your passion" sounds inspiring, but it's misleading — and the research backs that up.

Drawing on hundreds of studies, we’ve identified five key ingredients of ... more

The average career is 80,000 hours long. With AI advancing so rapidly, the hours you have left in your career matter more than ever.

Some leading AI researchers think there’s a 10% chance that AI systems begin automating AI research itself this year... more

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Recent Guests

Rohin Shah
Head of AGI Alignment and Safety, Google DeepMind
Google DeepMind
Episode: What it's really like to run AGI safety at Google DeepMind (and where I disagree with 'doomers') | Rohin Shah
Ben Todd
Co-founder of 80,000 Hours; author of 80,000 Hours book
80,000 Hours
Episode: We’re updating our career advice for the strangest time in history | Benjamin Todd, author of 80,000 Hours
Yoshua Bengio
Scientific Director at LawZero; Turing Award recipient; leading AI researcher
LawZero
Episode: #243 – 'Godfather of AI' Yoshua Bengio: "I now see a path" to safe superintelligent AI
Richard Moulange
PhD in Biostatistical Machine Learning; AI Biosecurity Policy Manager at the Center for Long-Term Resilience
Center for Long-Term Resilience
Episode: #241 – Richard Moulange on how now AI codes viable genomes from scratch and outperforms virologists at lab work — what could go wrong?
Samuel Charap
Distinguished chair in Russia and Eurasia policy at the RAND Corporation
RAND Corporation
Episode: #240 – Samuel Charap on how a Ukraine ceasefire could accidentally set Europe up for a bigger war
Rose Hadshar
Researcher at Forethought
Forethought
Episode: #239 – Rose Hadshar on why automating all human labour will break our political system
Nikita Lalwani
Lawyer and policy maker; former White House Director for Technology and National Security
Carnegie Endowment for International Peace (co-authored piece in Foreign Affairs)
Episode: #238 – Sam Winter-Levy and Nikita Lalwani on how AGI won't end mutually assured destruction (probably)
Sam Winter-Levy
Fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace focusing on national security and AI
Carnegie Endowment for International Peace
Episode: #238 – Sam Winter-Levy and Nikita Lalwani on how AGI won't end mutually assured destruction (probably)
Max Harms
Alignment researcher at the Machine Intelligence Research Institute (MIRI)
Machine Intelligence Research Institute (MIRI)
Episode: #236 – Max Harms on why teaching AI right from wrong could get everyone killed

Hosts

Rob Wiblin
Host of the main show, known for thorough interviewing and deep dives into AI safety and governance.
Luisa Rodriguez
Co-host with a focus on accessible explanations and fielding diverse guest perspectives.
Zershaaneh Qureshi
Co-host and narrator of the article, contributes research and synthesis.

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 1.2k ratings
  • Good; Needs Improvements

    I’ve learned a lot listening to this podcast and the issues covered are extremely important. However, since this is the primary podcast focusing on these issues, it is crucial to make sure they are being broadcasted effectively.

    Here’s some improvements:

    1. Hosts must push back against guests. Often the hosts will agree and not question the difficult and sometimes dubious steps of the guests.

    2. Hosts should have more research into the guests’ topics. I’m sure there are folks in 80k that wor... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Leopold P Bloom
    United States5 months ago
  • Not what it used to be

    Despite the occasional episode on topics of interest the somewhat recent near total fixation on AI is very unfortunate. The uncritical interview of Jacobsen on nuclear weapons was also a huge red flag.

    Apple Podcasts
    2
    NicolasAJD
    United States7 months ago
  • It’s only a podcast about AI now

    It makes me want to vomit 🤮 Please go back to making content about how people can make difference in the world. One more podcast about AI and I’m never listening to this again.

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    CSOlson91
    United States7 months ago
  • Bit for bit

    The intellectual rigor and humility of the hosts, the incredible guests, and the saliency of the issues discussed make this, bit for bit, the most rewarding and useful podcast out there. Sure it’s longer than most. It’s also better.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Hoborigonal
    United States7 months ago
  • Like, you know, like

    Maybe someone who can speak should re-tell this content. Many speakers here say more interjections than meaningful words. Non stop use of: like, right, you know, um, and so on. Decent intention but hard to listen to.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    M3PH15TO.
    Canada8 months ago

Listeners Say

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Insightful deep dives with rigorous guests; a must for anyone interested in AI risk and governance.
Long-form format can be dense but rewards careful listening and reflection.
Audience value comes from rigorous analysis; pacing and accessibility can vary by episode.
Guests are high-caliber and topics are highly relevant to policy and tech.
Production quality and preparation set a high standard for intellectual podcasts.

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Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

What it's really like to run AGI safety at Google DeepMind (and where I disagree with 'doomers') | Rohin Shah
Q: Why don't you think deep commitments from companies will reliably move the safety needle in the long run?
Because commitments can be updated or reversed as research and priorities change, and they don't guarantee alignment with actual practice. External audits, access for independent evaluators, and ongoing transparency are more robust signals that safety work is being done in ways that matter for real-world risk.
We’re updating our career advice for the strangest time in history | Benjamin Todd, author of 80,000 Hours
Q: What gives you confidence that individuals can influence outcomes despite rapid AI advancement?
There are multiple actionable paths: education and training in AI risk areas, policy and governance work, communications to correct misconceptions, and political will-building; even small steps can compound into meaningful impact, and high-leverage opportunities exist across many sectors.
We’re updating our career advice for the strangest time in history | Benjamin Todd, author of 80,000 Hours
Q: How do you reconcile career impact with the risk of automation—should people pursue AI-focused roles or other sectors?
Focus on rising, high-value areas that are harder to automate in the near term, such as managerial, policy, communications, and social/systemic roles, while keeping options open to move into AI-related work as the landscape evolves; the emphasis is on flexibility and building transferable skills.
We’re updating our career advice for the strangest time in history | Benjamin Todd, author of 80,000 Hours
Q: What should people do now if they're worried about AI timelines and want to have impact?
Transition quickly where possible, start with a crash course to understand the field, build a portfolio or concrete project, speak to people in the field to tailor a path, and consider applying to fellowships or roles that accelerate exposure to AI risk work; reassess and pivot as needed.
#242 – Will MacAskill on how we survive the 'intelligence explosion,' AI character, and the case for 'viatopia'
Q: What is Viatopia and why consider it as a near-term vision?
Viatopia is a pragmatic framework for imagining a future post-AI with superintelligence that avoids naive utopianism by focusing on a realistic, achievable path toward a state that is at least 90% as good as the best possible future. It emphasizes distributed power, governance processes, and incremental improvements while avoiding the pitfalls of extreme utopianism and protopianism, proposing a middle ground for practical progress during a risky transition.

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What is 80,000 Hours Podcast about and what kind of topics does it cover?

A deep-dive, idea-heavy interview show that explores the intersection of technology, policy, and human welfare through long-form conversations with leading researchers, policymakers, philosophers, and industry experts. Episodes routinely tackle AI safety, governance, economics, and the societal implications of rapid technological change, often balancing rigorous analysis with practical career and policy guidance. Notable strengths include high-caliber guests, thorough preparation, and a willingness to explore nuanced trade-offs in AI risk, ethics, and strategy. The format tends to favor long, thoughtful discussions that unpack complex topics for listeners aiming to shape impactful careers or informed decisions in tech policy and AI governan... more

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