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80,000 Hours Podcast

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Mental Health
Anxiety
Depression
AI Welfare
Moral Consideration
Legal Personhood
Sentience
Neurotechnology
Effective Altruism
AI Safety
Democracy and AI
Connected Minds
Animal Ethics
Artificial Intelligence Ethics
Population Ethics
Surveillance
Cognitive Liberty
Career Development
Imposter Syndrome
Human Enhancement

The most important conversations about artificial intelligence you won’t hear anywhere else. Subscribe by searching for '80000 Hours' wherever you get podcasts. Hosted by Rob Wiblin, Luisa Rodriguez, and Zershaaneh Qureshi.

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In this special compilation episode, 17 past guests — including economists, nonprofit founders, and policy advisors — share their most powerful and actionable insi... more

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Last September, scientists used an AI model to design genomes for entirely new bacteriophages (viruses that infect bacteria). They then built them in a lab. Many were viable. And despite being entirely novel some even outperformed existing viruses fr... more

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Recent Guests

Richard Moulange
PhD in Biostatistical Machine Learning; AI Biosecurity Policy Manager at the Center for Long-Term Resilience
Center for Long-Term Resilience
Episode: AI codes viable genomes from scratch and outperforms virologists at lab work. What could go wrong? | Dr Richard Moulange, CLTR
Samuel Charap
Distinguished chair in Russia and Eurasia policy at the RAND Corporation
RAND Corporation
Episode: #240 – Samuel Charap on how a Ukraine ceasefire could accidentally set Europe up for a bigger war
Rose Hadshar
Researcher at Forethought
Forethought
Episode: #239 – Rose Hadshar on why automating human labour will break our political system
Nikita Lalwani
Lawyer and policy maker; former White House Director for Technology and National Security
Carnegie Endowment for International Peace (co-authored piece in Foreign Affairs)
Episode: #238 – Sam Winter-Levy and Nikita Lalwani on how AGI won't end mutually assured destruction (probably)
Sam Winter-Levy
Fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace focusing on national security and AI
Carnegie Endowment for International Peace
Episode: #238 – Sam Winter-Levy and Nikita Lalwani on how AGI won't end mutually assured destruction (probably)
Max Harms
Alignment researcher at the Machine Intelligence Research Institute (MIRI)
Machine Intelligence Research Institute (MIRI)
Episode: #236 – Max Harms on why teaching AI right from wrong could get everyone killed
Dr. Randolph Nesse
Leader in the field of evolutionary psychiatry and author of 'Good Reasons for Bad Feelings'
Episode: #179 Classic episode – Randy Nesse on why evolution left us so vulnerable to depression and anxiety
David Duvenaud
Professor of Computer Science at the University of Toronto
University of Toronto
Episode: #234 – David Duvenaud on why 'aligned AI' would still kill democracy
Christopher Leslie Brown
Professor of history at Columbia University specializing in the history of the British Empire, slavery, and the movement for its abolition.
Columbia University
Episode: #145 Classic episode – Christopher Brown on why slavery abolition wasn't inevitable

Hosts

Rob Wiblin
Host focusing on rigorous analysis, programmatic research, and interview facilitation.
Luisa Rodriguez
Co-host and interviewer known for thoughtful engagement and facilitation of deep discussions.

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 1.2k ratings
  • Good; Needs Improvements

    I’ve learned a lot listening to this podcast and the issues covered are extremely important. However, since this is the primary podcast focusing on these issues, it is crucial to make sure they are being broadcasted effectively.

    Here’s some improvements:

    1. Hosts must push back against guests. Often the hosts will agree and not question the difficult and sometimes dubious steps of the guests.

    2. Hosts should have more research into the guests’ topics. I’m sure there are folks in 80k that wor... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Leopold P Bloom
    United States3 months ago
  • Not what it used to be

    Despite the occasional episode on topics of interest the somewhat recent near total fixation on AI is very unfortunate. The uncritical interview of Jacobsen on nuclear weapons was also a huge red flag.

    Apple Podcasts
    2
    NicolasAJD
    United States5 months ago
  • It’s only a podcast about AI now

    It makes me want to vomit 🤮 Please go back to making content about how people can make difference in the world. One more podcast about AI and I’m never listening to this again.

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    CSOlson91
    United States5 months ago
  • Bit for bit

    The intellectual rigor and humility of the hosts, the incredible guests, and the saliency of the issues discussed make this, bit for bit, the most rewarding and useful podcast out there. Sure it’s longer than most. It’s also better.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Hoborigonal
    United States5 months ago
  • Like, you know, like

    Maybe someone who can speak should re-tell this content. Many speakers here say more interjections than meaningful words. Non stop use of: like, right, you know, um, and so on. Decent intention but hard to listen to.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    M3PH15TO.
    Canada6 months ago

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Long-form, nuanced discussions are valued, though a few feel episodes can be dense.
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#240 – Samuel Charap on how a Ukraine ceasefire could accidentally set Europe up for a bigger war
Q: What would a plausible path to peace look like, and what do you see as the necessary components of a framework agreement?
A plausible path involves a phased ceasefire that gradually reduces the fighting domains, followed by a comprehensive framework agreement addressing post-war security arrangements, territory questions, and long-term NATO-Russia dialogue. It would include a robust verification/monitoring process, an on-ground withdrawal plan, and security guarantees that make it politically and militarily costly for either side to renege on the agreement.
#240 – Samuel Charap on how a Ukraine ceasefire could accidentally set Europe up for a bigger war
Q: What is the snapback guarantee concept and how might it deter future aggression?
Snapback guarantees would automatically reinstate sanctions and other Western measures if Russia violates the ceasefire, removing the need for lengthy political debates each time a violation occurs. This mechanism, drawn from existing treaty practices like the Iran deal, could improve deterrence by raising the cost of breach and making commitments more credible.
#240 – Samuel Charap on how a Ukraine ceasefire could accidentally set Europe up for a bigger war
Q: How serious is the risk of a direct NATO-Russia confrontation after a ceasefire in Ukraine?
The guest argues that the post-hot-war security environment is ripe for miscalculation, and that without careful, multi-layered guarantees and a credible long-term negotiation framework, the risk of escalation remains real. Time on Russia's side, the potential for Belarusian instability, and the possibility of snapback violations all contribute to a higher-than-naively-expected risk of renewed conflict unless governance structures are put in place.
AI codes viable genomes from scratch and outperforms virologists at lab work. What could go wrong? | Dr Richard Moulange, CLTR
Q: How can governance respond to AI-enabled bio risks without stifling beneficial science?
Strategies include managed access, robust guardrails, and defensive acceleration — plus international cooperation, surveillance, attribution, data sharing among safety institutes, and incentives for defenders to drive safer innovation.
AI codes viable genomes from scratch and outperforms virologists at lab work. What could go wrong? | Dr Richard Moulange, CLTR
Q: What are the main threat models discussed and which actors pose the biggest risk?
Threat models range from novices to highly capable state actors like Russia, Iran, North Korea, and China. The discussion emphasizes that mid-tier actors and states with biological programs could be uplifted by AI to design more dangerous pathogens, while also acknowledging that complex, covert actions may involve intermediaries and proxies.

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The series features long, rigorous conversations exploring big-picture problems and practical paths to improve the world. Episodes frequently center on AI safety and governance, the ethics of emerging technologies, and how scientific ideas intersect with policy, history, and social outcomes. Listeners can expect thoughtful critiques, diverse expert viewpoints, and in-depth analyses that connect theory to real-world implications for work, policy, and the future of society. A standout aspect is the willingness to grapple with thorny questions—ranging from AI consciousness and welfare to historical justice and existential risks—with a mix of technical depth and accessible storytelling that often invites listeners to rethink assumptions about t... more

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