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You Can Be Both

Lauren Lanzaretta
Christianity
LGBTQ+ Community
Mental Health
Conversion Therapy
LGBTQ Community
LGBTQ+
LGBTQ
Religious Trauma
Self-Acceptance
Love
Bible Interpretation
Divorce
Deconstruction
Faith and Sexuality
Therapy
Trauma Healing
Community Support
Religious Abuse
LGBTQ Rights
Religious Denominations

You Can Be Both is hosted by singer/songwriter Lauren Lanzaretta, who shares honest conversations about being both gay and Christian—two identities often seen as incompatible. The podcast creates space for LGBTQ+ people of faith to find healing, community, and a deeper connection with Christ while fully embracing who they are. As a first step to your healing journey, I recommend the “LGBTQ+ Healin... more

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What should Christian parents do when their child comes out as gay, transgender, or nonbinary?

In this deeply personal episode of You Can Be Both, Lauren sits down with Shari Bruck—a mother of two LGBTQ+ children—to discuss faith deconstruction, re... more

If you've ever wondered whether you can be both LGBTQ+ and Christian, this conversation is for you.

In this powerful episode of You Can Be Both, Lauren sits down with Mattie Mae Motl—a progressive Bible scholar, Master of Divinity graduate, and PhD ... more

In this powerful conversation, Lauren Lanzaretta interviews Pastor Kristian Smith—a straight, fifth-generation Baptist preacher and fierce LGBTQ+ advocate—about his journey from embedded homophobia to becoming one of the most vocal allies in the Blac... more

Together, they discuss:

* 🇺🇸 What America's founding ideals actually promised

* ✝️ The rise of Christian nationalism and how it differs from Christianity

* 🌈 Why LGBTQ rights remain under attack

* 📜 The meaning behind "all men are created... more

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Recent Guests

Mattie Mae Motl
Progressive Bible scholar, PhD candidate in gender, sexuality, and masculinity in the New Testament
University of St Andrews (PhD candidate)
Episode: Bible Scholar DESTROYS the "Being Gay Is a Sin" Argument
Kristian A. Smith
Public theologian, spiritual humanist, and digital pastor
Faith Community Virtual
Episode: How This Black Baptist Pastor Became an LGBTQ Advocate | Deconstructing Homophobia
Tim Whitaker
Founder of The New Evangelicals; host of Tim Whitaker Speaks podcast and The Tim in April Show
The New Evangelicals
Episode: America Turns 250... But Is There Really Freedom for Everyone? Why Celebrating July 4th Feels Complicated for LGBTQ+ Americans
Sara Cunningham
Founder of Free Mom Hugs, advocate for LGBTQ+ inclusion in faith communities
Free Mom Hugs
Episode: From Rejecting Her Gay Son to Hugging Thousands of LGBTQ — Founder of FREE MOM HUGS Shares Her Faith Journey
Leah Rae Yawn
Gospel singer and public figure who discusses her coming out and life with Captain Sandy Yawn
Independent artist / singer
Episode: Gospel Singer Lost Everything When She Came Out as Gay — Now Married to Captain Sandy Yawn
Kathy Baldock
Leading voice on LGBTQ+ issues within Christianity; author and founder of Canyon Walker Connections
Canyon Walker Connections
Episode: PROOF that "Homosexuality" Was Never in The Original Bible: Kathy Baldock Explains The Mistranslation That's Oppressed LGBTQ+ For Centuries
Michael Passons
Founding member of Avalon; reimagining Testify to Love
Avalon (former)
Episode: "Testify to Love" Singer Michael Passons: Kicked Out For Being Gay, Now Topping Christian Charts
Mike Maeshiro
Founder of Numa, former Bethel School of Supernatural Ministry instructor
Numa
Episode: God WANTS Me To Be Gay -- A Former Pastor's Coming Out Story
Brandon Robertson
Reverend, author, pastor, and public theologian at the forefront of the progressive faith movement
Sunnyside Reformed Church (Pastor, NYC); Coral Gables United Church of Christ (Theologian in Residence); author of Queer and Christian
Episode: Being Gay Isn't a Sin — Here's Why the Bible Actually SUPPORTS LGBTQ People

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Lauren Lanzaretta
Host of You Can Be Both and creator of space for LGBTQ+ people of faith to heal and belong.

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From Rejecting Her Gay Son to Hugging Thousands of LGBTQ — Founder of FREE MOM HUGS Shares Her Faith Journey
Q: What advice do you have for a mother with a gay child who might have fear-based theology?
She encourages validation and celebration of the child, seeking faith-based resources, and engaging in dialogue or written communication to prepare for conversations. She also highlights backing up with safe spaces and community support while the parent learns.
From Rejecting Her Gay Son to Hugging Thousands of LGBTQ — Founder of FREE MOM HUGS Shares Her Faith Journey
Q: What did you lose when you started to change your theology and accept your son?
She recounts losing a long-time church home and some friendships, but emphasizes that the shift brought healing for her family. She emphasizes the role of education, supportive communities, and faith resources in rebuilding her relationship with her son.
From Rejecting Her Gay Son to Hugging Thousands of LGBTQ — Founder of FREE MOM HUGS Shares Her Faith Journey
Q: But even before that, why don't you take us back? When did you find out your son was gay, and how was that conversation?
Sara describes a painful period of denial and fear, followed by a pivotal moment at a Pride parade and deep deconstruction of her beliefs. She explains that she could not reconcile a loving God with condemning her son, which began a long process of education, counseling, and support for LGBTQ+ youth.
Being Gay Isn't a Sin — Here's Why the Bible Actually SUPPORTS LGBTQ People
Q: What does a healthy, ethical sexuality look like for LGBTQ Christians according to your view?
He explains a flexible, mindful sexuality framework focused on love for God, neighbor, and self, consent, commitment, and avoiding coercive or exploitative dynamics, rather than a single universal rule.
Being Gay Isn't a Sin — Here's Why the Bible Actually SUPPORTS LGBTQ People
Q: How did your experience at Moody and the conversion-therapy era shape your approach to faith and sexuality?
Brandon recounts his time at Moody, the forced 'conversion therapy' experience, the open church in Chicago that destabilized his views, and how these events catalyzed his move toward a more inclusive theology.

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Frequently Asked Questions About You Can Be Both

What is You Can Be Both about and what kind of topics does it cover?

The show centers conversations with LGBTQ+ people of faith, exploring how to embrace queer identities while maintaining spiritual life. Episodes often feature personal coming-out journeys, deconstruction of evangelical culture, and discussions around inclusive theology, with a strong emphasis on healing from religious trauma and building compassionate faith communities. Guests range from pastors and theologians to therapists and advocates, all sharing practical insights for navigating faith, sexuality, and belonging. A notable strength is the commitment to authenticity and inclusive community-building, often weaving in resources and calls to action for listeners seeking support, testimony, or community.

Overall, it's a thoughtful, survivor... more

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5. Leah Rae Yawn
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