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Every Friday and Sunday, Slate’s popular daily news podcast What Next brings you TBD, a clear-eyed look into the future. From fake news to fake meat, algorithms to augmented reality, Lizzie O’Leary is your guide to the tech industry and the world it’s creating for us to live in.

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Donald Trump—or at least the tech guys who have his ear—is ready to clear the regulatory runway for A.I. but other Republicans aren’t too sure. Can he bring them around? Or will the bubble burst first?

Guest: Gerrit De Vynck, tech reporter for the W... more

A tech mogul who made bank from Paypal with his Stanford buddies and has endeared himself to right-wing politicians and enriched himself the same way? No not him; this one’s South African..no, not him either.

Guest: Ryan Mac, reporter for the New Yo... more

As the U.S. upgrades and updates its defense and military systems, the question isn’t whether A.I. will be integrated, but where, how much, and how much decision-making are we ceding to the machine?

Guest: Josh Keating, senior correspondent at Vox a... more

Note: This episode was originally published on July 27, 2025.

There’s an entire economy devoted to seeing what products are trending—clothing, skin care, even Greek Islands—and delivering you a cheaper knock-off to buy.

Guest: Mia Sato, reporter fo... more

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Reviews

4.4 out of 5 stars from 351 ratings
  • Just advert after advert

    Tried to bear it but I’m out

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    1
    Flash0983
    United Kingdom5 months ago
  • Too much ads

    Sick

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    FuuuuuuckThisGame
    United States2 years ago
  • I love this podcast, but …

    It’s played in What Next? also, so I decided to unsubscribe, so I wouldn’t have the same episode show up on my feed. Lizzie O’Leary is awesome. I used to enjoy hearing her in Marketplace. I’m happy to here her again

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    semipenguin
    United States2 years ago
  • Shallow summaries of tech issues filled with ads

    There is a huge demand for deep dive podcasts into the hot topic tech issues like AI and the Metaverse etc. This podcasts taps exactly into that but fails miserably. After summarizing an issue, which basically takes the entire episode because of all the ads (funded by the same companies they critique i.e. Apple), they end each episode with a “ok so what does this all mean?” segment. Except this segment lasts 30 sec followed by more ads and then the podcast ends.

    So if you are looking for dee... more

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    Samd199
    United States2 years ago
  • OMG… now I realize why trump will get re-elected

    Generally enjoy the show, but just listened to

    Apple Podcasts
    2
    bluebill987
    United States2 years ago

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Many enjoy the provocative questions raised about technology's role in society, though some feel that certain episodes may lack depth and detail.
There are concerns about excessive advertising interrupting content, which some find frustrating and detracting from the overall listening experience.
Listeners appreciate the engaging discussions on relevant tech issues, often highlighting the well-researched content and the expertise of guests.

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If You Give A.I. a Nuke
Q: Are there examples that you could give me that make it tangible?
Examples range from predictive maintenance to more controversial systems like Cold War automatic weapon systems that would launch nuclear weapons if leadership were decapitated.
If You Give A.I. a Nuke
Q: How much has artificial intelligence become enmeshed in the nuclear system, if at all, over say the past decade?
There is a big push to use more AI for military planning, and it is shocking if nuclear weapons aren't part of this trend.
Crypto Keeps Criming
Q: What obligations do crypto exchanges have to prevent this kind of thing from happening?
Exchanges must maintain robust anti-money laundering systems, but it's understood that some illicit transactions can slip through.
Crypto Keeps Criming
Q: What weaponization was he talking about?
He was referring to a campaign by the SEC to bring lawsuits against major crypto companies.
How Meta Profits Off Fraud
Q: How long has Meta been aware of the scam problem?
Meta has been tracking scam activity and reports, but it only recently began to prioritize the issue due to its growing scale.

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