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Ethical Leadership
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SELCO Foundation
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Sport Integrity Commission
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Doughnut Economics
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Melbourne
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R&R Model (risk, Need, Responsivity)
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Millet Mentor Program
India
Aotearoa, New Zealand
Restorative Detention

Ethics are the very essence of what makes us human. Yet most of us aren’t fully aware of how ethics impact our decisions, actions and relationships. What ELS? is a new podcast born from the conviction that ethical leadership is a tool that we can use with much intentionality to create pathways towards better futures. Ethical leadership is about making decisions for the common good. It is about nav... more

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Toon Molleman is the National Director of the prison and immigration detention division of the Dienst Justitiële Inrichtingen (DJI), the Netherlands’ custodial agency within the Ministry of Justice and Security. Throughout his career, Toon has been a... more

Huda Jaffer is a strong advocate for putting true inclusion and equity at the core of a just economic transition. In her Director role at SELCO Foundation in Bangalore, India, this translates into a strong focus on user-centric design as she and her ... more

Kaj Lofgren founded Regen Melbourne at the height of the COVID-19 pandemic and in the wake of the Black Summer fires. Five years on, what started as a community-research project has turned into an innovative engine for collaboration in service of the... more

Her early career as an elite athlete has shaped Rebecca Rolls’s approach to leadership ever since. Rolls, the inaugural CEO of the Sport Integrity Commission - Te Kahu Raunui, reflects on the importance of knowing your own limitations, surrounding yo... more

Guy Ryan recently made the big decision to step away from the organisation that he founded and poured his heart and soul into for so many years (Inspiring Stories) to become the new CEO of the Wellington Hospitals Foundation.

This episode offers th... more

Bruce ‘Pic’ Picot is well-known for making some bold decisions at Pic’s Peanut Butter, which he started almost a decade ago, for championing radical changes, and for using provocation to trigger positive outcomes. He strongly believes that business l... more

Julia Pahina is a self-declared ‘walkout’ and ‘trailblazer’. An award-winning social entrepreneur in the space of technology and Artificial Intelligence, she is dedicated to transforming the technology sector through digital equity and diverse repres... more

When John Berry co-founded Pathfinder, a successful ethical KiwiSaver and ethical investment fund, back in 2009, the industry was not quite ready. It was really hard to get private investors’ interest and traction in this new way of thinking. But Ber... more

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Toon Molleman
Senior Dutch correctional administrator and researcher; National Director of the Prison and Immigration Detention Division, DJI, Netherlands
Dutch Prison Service / Europris
Episode: Toon Molleman on putting humanity, dignity and reintegration at the core of the prison system.
Huda Jaffer
Director at SELCO Foundation
SELCO Foundation
Episode: Huda Jaffer on the transformative power of decentralized, context-driven innovation
Kaj Lofgren
Founder and CEO of Regen Melbourne
Regen Melbourne; advisor at Small Giants Academy
Episode: Kaj Lofgren on building transitional infrastructure for the regeneration of place
Rebecca Rolls
Inaugural Chief Executive Officer of Sport Integrity Commission, Te Kahuranui
Sport Integrity Commission
Episode: Rebecca Rolls on self-awareness and lifelong learning
Bruce Picot
Founder of Pic's Peanut Butter
Pic's Peanut Butter
Episode: Guy Ryan on leading with authenticity and respect
Caren Rangi
New Zealand governance leader, cultural advocate, and public sector professional
Independent director with extensive governance roles in arts, broadcasting, and public sector
Episode: Caren Rangi on whakawhanaungatanga and being good stewards
John Berry
CEO and Co-founder of Pathfinder Asset Management
Pathfinder Asset Management
Episode: John Berry on moving mountains to shift entire industries
Julia Pahina
Award-winning social entrepreneur and systems change strategist
Fiberfali (founder)
Episode: Julia Pahina on pushing boundaries with courage and empathy

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Hélène Malandin
Host focusing on ethical leadership and governance discussions, guiding interviews with a cross-section of leaders.

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Kaj Lofgren on building transitional infrastructure for the regeneration of place
Q: How do you navigate different models like Doughnut Economics and mission-oriented innovation without getting stuck in a single framework?
We stay context-driven and use a plural, flexible approach. Doughnut provides vision and measurement; mission-oriented innovation supplies actionable pathways. We view frameworks as tools that can nest together, adapting them to place-specific realities rather than adhering rigidly to one model.
Kaj Lofgren on building transitional infrastructure for the regeneration of place
Q: How did Regen Melbourne evolve from a community research project to a platform for ambitious collaboration?
It evolved through phases: starting as a community research exploration, then enrolling funders early to sustain the work, and balancing relational weaving with forming structures (infrastructure) to hold complexity. This progression led to a formal platform with multiple earth shots and a Systems Lab to study enabling conditions.
Kaj Lofgren on building transitional infrastructure for the regeneration of place
Q: What are the three pillars that form the architecture of Regen Melbourne, and how do they relate to each other?
The vision, grounded in Doughnut Economics, sets the North Star for Melbourne. The earth shots translate that vision into ambitious, tangible goals, and the Systems Lab focuses on the knowledge, governance, and enabling conditions needed to move those earth shots forward. Together they create a coherent framework where vision, action, and learning reinforce each other.
John Berry on moving mountains to shift entire industries
Q: How do you see the future of ethical investing in New Zealand and globally?
Ethical investing is moving from the fringe to mainstream as people recognize that investment choices have real-world outcomes, with a growing focus on positive investment, infrastructure, and transformative technologies.
John Berry on moving mountains to shift entire industries
Q: Thank you. So John, given your extensive career in the financial industry, how do you define money?
Money is a tool for value exchange; it can be perceived neutrally but also as a driver of positive or negative consequences, depending on how it is used in investing and policy.

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Across recent episodes, the show centers on ethical leadership as a practical, action-oriented framework for business, public sector, and civil society. Conversations span how organizations embed ethics into strategy, governance, and everyday decision-making, with deep dives into decentered, context-aware innovation, place-based regeneration, sports integrity, ethical investing, and responsible AI. A notable through-line is a emphasis on systems thinking, stakeholder impact, and long-term value creation over short-term gains, often featuring leaders who bridge philanthropy, governance, and enterprise. A standout aspect is the host's focus on real-world, values-driven leadership across diverse sectors and geographies, including New Zealand, ... more

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2. Huda Jaffer
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5. Bruce Picot
6. Caren Rangi
7. John Berry
8. Julia Pahina

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