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Born to Be Free: Supporting Neurodivergent Clients to Learn, Play, & Thrive

Meg Ferrell
Autism
Neurodiversity
Occupational Therapy
Mental Health
Pediatric Feeding Practices
Get Permission Approach
Augmentative and Alternative Communication
Disability Justice
Representation Of Autistic Characters
Speech-Language Pathology
Trauma
Autistic Neurotype
Child-Led Therapy
Autism Spectrum Disorder
Continuing Education
Education
Inclusivity
Therapeutic Practices
Intersectionality
Disability Rights

A podcast for professionals looking to support the deepest wellbeing of their neurodivergent clients. We focus on lived experiences, research, affirming practices, intersectionality, and the practical ways we can support authentic wellbeing. Visit learnplaythrive.com/podcast/

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This episode is a deep and nuanced exploration into the seemingly competing needs of being Autistic and being ADHD. We call these folks AuDHD-ers, and they're often faced with both the need for routines that comes with being Autistic and the craving ... more

{{Two Sides of the Spectrum is now Born to Be Free!}} This episode is a sweeping overview of the co-occurring conditions that Autistic people often experience, including OCD, depression, anxiety, ADHD, PDA, and more. Autistic Licensed Psychological P... more

We have a new podcast name! Keep your eyes out for our first episode of Born to Be Free: Supporting Your Neurodivergent Clients to Learn, Play, and Thrive. The podcast is relaunching with an emphasis on all of the complexities our Autistic clients ex... more

This episode dives into the specific needs of AuDHD-ers – that’s kids who are Autistic and have ADHD -  tying in executive functioning, social-emotional well-being, and so much more.  Vanessa’s take is detailed, creative, and deeply practical. You’re... more

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Recent Guests

Vanessa Castañeda Gill
CEO and co-founder of Social Cipher, a neurodiversity-focused edtech company
Social Cipher
Episode: AuDHDers, Executive Function, & Social-Emotional Wellbeing with Vanessa Castañeda Gill
Dr. Devon Price
Social psychologist and author of 'Unmasking for Life'
Loyola University Chicago
Episode: Five Core Skills to Help Your Autistic Clients to Unmask for Life with Dr. Devon Price
Chenai Mupotsa-Russell
An art therapist, community builder, advocate, and PhD candidate in community psychology.
Rainbow Muse Collective
Episode: Showing Up in the Therapy Room With Our Whole Humanity: Art, Attunement, and Radical Care with Chenai Mupotsa Russell
Sara Zielinski
Director of Occupational Therapy Services at a pediatric clinic, advocate for disability rights
HLC Therapy Group
Episode: How to Organize a Disability Pride Event in Your Town with Sara Zielinski
Dr. Jacquelyn Fede
Autistic Advocate and Developmental Psychologist
Autism Level Up
Episode: Supporting Regulation: A Leveled-Up Approach with Dr. Jacquelyn Fede and Dr. Amy Laurent
Dr. Amy Laurent
Developmental Psychologist, Registered Pediatric Occupational Therapist, and co-author of the CERTS model
Autism Level Up
Episode: Supporting Regulation: A Leveled-Up Approach with Dr. Jacquelyn Fede and Dr. Amy Laurent
Joyner Emerick
A dedicated advocate and community organizer; elected as Minneapolis' first openly autistic school board director in 2022
Minneapolis Public Schools
Episode: Reclaiming Disabled Kids' Futures: A Planning & Visioning Process for Every Provider with Joyner Emerick
Sorcha Rice
Autistic PDAer and occupational therapist
Episode: How to Support Autonomy in Regulation and Reduce Burnout for Autistic PDAers with Sorcha Rice
Mick Olds
Occupational Therapist and advocate for child-led therapy
Episode: Practices that Deeply Respect Children with Mick Olds

Host

Meg Farrell
Host of Two Sides of the Spectrum; shows focus on neurodiversity-affirming practices and autism advocacy

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 457 ratings
  • Great Resource

    As a therapist and coach who works with neurodiverse adult clients, I love this podcast. I love listening, as well as recommending it to to my clients.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Dr. Nicole Theron Parkes
    United States3 months ago
  • Moving us all forward

    This podcast got me through my first years as a clinician and continues to help me become the practitioner that I want to be. I’ve taken something useable from every episode I’ve listened to. And, I was moved to write a review after listening to the episodes featuring Dr. Gillian Boudreau. I loved every word. I appreciated the offering that working toward our own liberation and freedom as clinicians will help us as we join clients on their journey to be their authentic selves. But, it seemed lik... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    ResonantSpeech
    United States8 months ago
  • I'm not directly a practitioner working with autistic clients (such as ot or slp). However, as a swim instructor who works with lots of autistic kiddos, and as a mom of an autistic kiddo, i love hearing ways we can be affirming in helping kids thrive in many areas of life!

    Podcast Addict
    5
    VileT
    2 years ago
  • Thank you!

    You are amazing ❤️

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Divergent Minds
    United Kingdom2 years ago
  • Excellent resource for understanding autism from a neurodiversity affirming perspective

    This is a regular inclusion on my list of psychoeducational resources I provide in my neurodiversity affirming evaluations I complete with children. I love the introduction of a variety of topics and how it helps direct me to other resources I can also direct families to.

    María Pitale, PsyD

    Licensed psychologist specializing in autism evaluations

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    María Pitale, PsyD
    United States2 years ago

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Many reviews highlight the importance of autistic voices and neurodiversity-affirming perspectives.
Listeners praise the show for providing practical, actionable strategies that professionals can apply immediately.
Fans describe the podcast as transformative for clinical practice and family understanding of autism.

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AuDHDers, Executive Function, & Social-Emotional Wellbeing with Vanessa Castañeda Gill
Q: What role does identity formation and social connection play in your programming for preteens-to-teens, and how do Lego Foundation partnerships influence that?
Identity formation is central; the world builder and character creator let kids express who they are, their passions, and the people around them. LEGO Foundation's learning-through-play principles inform the design to ensure joy, meaningful engagement, and social interaction, while giving kids agency to create and iterate in safe spaces.
Five Core Skills to Help Your Autistic Clients to Unmask for Life with Dr. Devon Price
Q: Can you introduce us to the first skill, which is acceptance of change, loss, and uncertainty?
Acceptance of change is about recognizing that autistic individuals often struggle with unfamiliar situations due to their different processing style and learning to gradually embrace change.
Five Core Skills to Help Your Autistic Clients to Unmask for Life with Dr. Devon Price
Q: Can you talk about trauma and how it shows up for many autistic people?
Cumulatively, being pushed into a physically uncomfortable environment and being in fight or flight mode every day can lead to major trauma responses for autistic people.
Five Core Skills to Help Your Autistic Clients to Unmask for Life with Dr. Devon Price
Q: Can you explain what masking means and some of the ways it can be harmful?
Masking is taking steps to either hide or compensate for the fact that you have a disability to make up for the fact that the world is not accommodating you and not accepting to you.
Showing Up in the Therapy Room With Our Whole Humanity: Art, Attunement, and Radical Care with Chenai Mupotsa Russell
Q: Can you share an example of an art-based prompt that a provider could use?
Chenai emphasizes the importance of tailoring prompts to the interests of the clients and highlights creativity through digital platforms like Minecraft.

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This show centers on affirming, neurodiversity-affirming practices for autistic and other neurodivergent clients, with a strong emphasis on lived experience, practical strategies, and collaboration across families, clinicians, and researchers. Episodes frequently explore topics like executive functioning, emotional and energy regulation, trauma-informed care, culturally safe therapy, and inclusive, child-led approaches that push back against norm-based expectations. A notable strength is the focus on authentic autistic voices, applicability of strategies in real-world settings, and bridging clinical practice with advocacy and community building. The format often blends personal narratives with evidence-informed techniques, making it useful ... more

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2. Dr. Devon Price
3. Chenai Mupotsa-Russell
4. Sara Zielinski
5. Dr. Jacquelyn Fede
6. Dr. Amy Laurent
7. Joyner Emerick
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