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Two Sides of the Spectrum

Meg Ferrell
Autism
Neurodiversity
Occupational Therapy
Pediatric Feeding Practices
Get Permission Approach
Mental Health
Augmentative and Alternative Communication
Speech-Language Pathology
Autistic Neurotype
Disability Justice
Disability Rights
Strength-Based Approaches
Education System In Ireland
Trauma-Informed Care
Empowering Neurodivergent Occupational Participation and Well-Being Model
Cultural Model Of Disability
Cultural Responsiveness
Assistive Technology
Equity In Education
Professional Boards

A place where we explore research, amplify autistic voices, and change the way we think about autism in life and in professional therapy practice. Visit learnplaythrive.com/podcast/

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Episode 67 was one of our most impactful episodes ever, and today we invite you to re-listen. Often as OTs and SLPs we skip right to teaching our Autistic clients new skills. But what about their experiences of felt safety while they are with us? Wha... more

If you’re anything like me, you learned how masking can harm the mental health of your Autistic clients….and then you never learned anything to put in its place. This leaves a huge gap for our Autistic clients who need us to know how to support their... more

This bonus episode is just for the parents you support, and it is all about meltdowns. A meltdown is a full body response to feeling overwhelmed. In a meltdown, our kids' nervous systems are in survival mode. They are going to fight for their lives o... more

We are back with a bright, glittery, colorful, and inclusive dose of hope for your professional practices. Our guest Emily Zimmer is one of the most creative, inclusive speech language therapists you’ll find. And in this episode she teaches us how we... more

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Recent Guests

Dr. Gillian Boudreau
Licensed clinical psychologist with extensive experience in working with children and families in the U.S.
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Episode: Safety As The Foundation of Everything with Dr. Gillian Boudreau
Katrina Martin
Founder of Bridges Learning System and neurodivergent parent
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Episode: Beyond The "Green Zone" & Beyond Labeling Feelings: Supporting Social Emotional Learning with Katrina Martin
Emily Zimmer
A queer neurodiversity affirming speech language therapist and artist.
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Episode: How to Infuse Your Practice with Creativity, Inclusion, and Arts with Emily Zimmer, SLP
Nessa Hill
Director of Neurodiversity Ireland and advocate for neurodivergent kids
Neurodiversity Ireland
Episode: Episode 100 - How to Change Everything: A Story from Ireland
Dr. Alyssa Hillary Zisk
AAC research team lead at AssistiveWare and part-time AAC user.
AssistiveWare
Episode: Part-Time AAC Use with Dr. Alyssa Hillary Zisk
Dr. Kristie Patten
Chair of the Department of Occupational Therapy at New York University
New York University
Episode: Strengths-Based Approaches: How to Deeply Center Passions with Dr. Kristie Patten
Heather Clarke
Black autistic woman with invisible disabilities and chronic illness, educator and advocate.
The Learning Advocate
Episode: Cultivating Freedom and Authenticity in Daily Life Through Culturally-Affirming Practices with Heather Clarke
Rachel Dorsey
Autistic Speech-Language Pathologist and course instructor for Goal Writing for Autistic Students
Learn Play Thrive
Episode: Strengths-Based Goal Writing in Action with Rachel Dorsey
Ido Kedar
Autistic self-advocate, advocate for non-speaking individuals, and author
Author of 'Ido in Autism Land' and 'Into Worlds'
Episode: The Power of Presuming Competence with Ido Kedar

Host

Meg Farrell
Host of discussions focusing on neurodiversity, autism support, and innovative therapy practices. Active in promoting inclusive strategies for neurodivergent individuals alongside expert guests.

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 446 ratings
  • I'm not directly a practitioner working with autistic clients (such as ot or slp). However, as a swim instructor who works with lots of autistic kiddos, and as a mom of an autistic kiddo, i love hearing ways we can be affirming in helping kids thrive in many areas of life!

    Podcast Addict
    5
    VileT
    a year ago
  • Thank you!

    You are amazing ❤️

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Divergent Minds
    United Kingdom2 years ago
  • Excellent resource for understanding autism from a neurodiversity affirming perspective

    This is a regular inclusion on my list of psychoeducational resources I provide in my neurodiversity affirming evaluations I complete with children. I love the introduction of a variety of topics and how it helps direct me to other resources I can also direct families to.

    María Pitale, PsyD

    Licensed psychologist specializing in autism evaluations

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    María Pitale, PsyD
    United States2 years ago
  • 5-Star Review - Dr. Tay

    As a licensed psychologist that works with autistic children and their families, I love the message of this podcast is to amplify autistic voices. It brings up great topics of discussion including the language we use and strategies to support autisitc kiddos.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    doctorTND
    United States2 years ago
  • A must listen

    As a mom of two autistic sons and a SPED teacher this podcast is a treasured find. I have already shared with other parents and coworkers and had such important conversations on all this draws attention to. I appreciate this perspective and all the research and support behind it, especially those of autistic voices. I know it will positively impact not only my parenting, but my teaching and how I goal write, celebrate, relationship build and meet the needs of my neurodivergent students.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Me7737
    United States2 years ago

Listeners Say

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The discussions have been described as thought-provoking, highlighting important shifts in understanding autism and its enrichment in educational practices.
Many reviews commend the podcast for providing insightful resources that inform both personal and professional approaches to autism, making it a valued tool for ongoing learning and development.
Listeners appreciate the focus on authentic autistic voices and practical strategies for supporting neurodiverse individuals.

Chart Rankings

How this podcast ranks in the Apple Podcasts, Spotify and YouTube charts.

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#35
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#45
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#226
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#10
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#163
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#243
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How to Infuse Your Practice with Creativity, Inclusion, and Arts with Emily Zimmer, SLP
Q: How do you weave the arts into your work as a speech language therapist?
I incorporate theater concepts, puppetry, and improv to engage children creatively in therapy.
How to Infuse Your Practice with Creativity, Inclusion, and Arts with Emily Zimmer, SLP
Q: How does inclusion show up for you in your work doing speech language therapy?
Inclusion is central to my work, blending in with family systems and reflecting diverse materials.
Episode 100 - How to Change Everything: A Story from Ireland
Q: What do you hope that folks in the US and elsewhere who are feeling like they don't have any power take from your story?
Nessa emphasizes the importance of civil resistance and the need for grassroots activism to create change, encouraging people to not feel disempowered and to engage in their communities.
Culturally Responsive Care with Native Clients with Joshuaa Allison-Burbank
Q: Can you talk a little bit about how your identity and ways of thinking as a native person influences your approach to therapy and how you view disability?
Joshua discusses how his indigenous perspective informs a holistic view of disability, focusing on inherent strengths rather than deficits, and embracing cultural identity in therapeutic practices.
Creating Gentler Approaches to Feeding Differences with Marsha Dunn Klein
Q: Can you define or can you share how you define our role as providers in the realm of food when we work with families?
It's not our job to get children to eat, but to give them opportunities to explore food in a way that works for them.

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This podcast focuses on exploring the complexities of autism by amplifying the voices of autistic individuals and presenting research that challenges traditional views on autism. It aims to transform the understanding and practices surrounding autism within various contexts, particularly in education and therapeutic settings. Through engaging discussions with experts, practitioners, and community members, listeners are introduced to innovative strategies and insights that promote inclusivity and acceptance for neurodivergent individuals.

Noteworthy is the emphasis on creating a dialogue that emphasizes neurodiversity and the lived experiences of autistic people, making it a vital resource for professionals in education and healthcare, as w... more

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1. Dr. Gillian Boudreau
2. Katrina Martin
3. Emily Zimmer
4. Nessa Hill
5. Dr. Alyssa Hillary Zisk
6. Dr. Kristie Patten
7. Heather Clarke
8. Rachel Dorsey

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