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Trust Me: Cults, Extreme Belief, and Manipulation

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Trust Me is a weekly interview podcast about cults, extreme belief, and the fine line between devotion and delusion—told through firsthand accounts from the people who lived it. Hosted by two women who’ve been in cults themselves, Lola Blanc and Meagan Elizabeth, the show features survivors from groups like Heaven’s Gate, the Manson Family, NXIVM, OneTaste and more–sharing personal stories of how ... more

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This week, Lola’s mom Dr. Christine Marie (and the podcast’s very first guest!) talks about moving to FLDS town Short Creek, how she earned the trust of new self-proclaimed prophet Sam Bateman, and what it was like going undercover with the FBI to ge... more

In part two with Nikki G., she discusses more of the high-control groups she joined, the political project of the Seven Mountain Mandate that she was part of, the connection between biblical concepts of obedience and white supremacy, and how everyone... more

This week, Nikki G., host of Surviving the Black Church and survivor of FIVE different high-control groups, discusses joining the first church on her cult-hopping journey, how she got initially pulled down the rabbit hole by conspiracy theories and t... more

This week, Lola and Meagan are joined by comic, actor, and author of Sure I’ll Join Your Cult, Maria Bamford. The girls discuss Maria’s childhood OCD, intrusive thoughts, and the ways those experiences primed her to seek support, structure, and belon... more

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Nikki G.
Host of Surviving the Black Church, survivor of multiple cults
Surviving the Black Church
Episode: Nikki G, Part 1 - Down the Rabbit Hole, Cult Hopping, and Surviving the Black Church
Maria Bamford
Legendary comic, actor, and author of Sure I'll Join Your Cult
Author/Comedian
Episode: Maria Bamford - 12 Step Programs, OCD, and How to Join Every Group
Sarah Edmondson
Survivor of NXIVM and host of A Little Bit Culty
NXIVM survivor, author of Scarred and co-host of A Little Bit Culty
Episode: Sarah Edmondson, Part 1 - Joining NXIVM, Meeting Keith Raniere, and Moving Up the Ranks
Nomz Bistline
Nomzia Bistline, survivor of FLDS, discussed her experience with Sam Bateman
FLDS community
Episode: Nomzia Bistline, Part 1 - The False Prophet: Growing Up FLDS & Marrying Sam Bateman
Lyndsey Burr
Longtime reality television producer who worked on America's Next Top Model
Producer, ANTM
Episode: Lyndsey Burr - Producing America’s Next Top Model
Matthew Remski
Author, host of Conspirituality podcast
Conspirituality
Episode: Matthew Remski, Part 2 - Cult Hopping, Disillusionment, and Root Causes of Cults
Harrison Hill
Writer and author of The Oracle's Daughter
Scribner
Episode: Harrison Hill - The Aggressive Christianity Missions Training Corps
Celeste Gross
Survivor of the Children of God (Family)
Children of God (Family)
Episode: Celeste Gross - Growing Up in the Children of God
Dan Olson
Creator of Folding Ideas YouTube channel
Folding Ideas
Episode: Dan Olson, Part 1 - Crypto, NFTs, and Tech’s War on Doubt

Hosts

Lola Blanc
Host with lived experience in cults; co-creator and podcast personality known for compassionate inquiry into manipulation and belief systems.
Meagan Elizabeth
Co-host with deep empathy and critical lens; guides conversations and amplifies survivor perspectives.

Reviews

4.6 out of 5 stars from 4.6k ratings
  • Oprah

    Too much glorification of Oprah in episode lest we forget son of John was not her only intro of perpetrators in the world lest we forget Dr Oz and Dr Phil as well as the guy that made up the book A Million Little pieces:James Frey!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    MelWStew
    United States3 months ago
  • Empathetic

    Love their attitude of empathy, since they understand how one gets confused in their thinking , and their drawing of parallels to cult like behavior around beauty standards, AI use etc.

    These women are smart and have on great guests so each episode is interesting, even if I didn’t think I’d relate I can learn something from each one. Thanks for keeping it real ladies !!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Themzez
    United States3 months ago
  • Great show!

    I’ve been listening since they joined ERM and I don’t want to say it’s been a pleasure . . . but this is a great show that is really elevated by the hosts deep understanding of high control tactics. Highly recommend!!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Dovie11
    United States4 months ago
  • Almost Through the Catalog

    Learned about this podcast when they joined exactly right and I’m almost done listening all the way back to the beginning. Love hearing people’s stories and the understanding that comes from the hosts’ perspectives. Balance of serious content and finding the joy perfect.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Study Buddy 95
    United States4 months ago
  • Great show!

    Very interesting content from a very interesting perspective.

    Meagan is the best. She told me to say that. This is not an AI paid advertisement.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    USCfighton
    United States4 months ago

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Listeners praise research quality and compassionate treatment of survivors.
Deep understanding of high-control tactics; balanced mix of humor and gravity.
Some criticism around tone or branding changes after network moves.
Hosts are empathetic and insightful, with thoughtful guest choices.

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How this podcast ranks in the Apple Podcasts, Spotify and YouTube charts.

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#161
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#178
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#232
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#130
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#138
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#165
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Talking Points

Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

Matthew Remski, Part 1 - Seizures, Spirituality, & the First Charismatic Guru
Q: So it all originated with some seizures that you had, is that correct?
The seizures were a turning point that coincided with a broader fascination with religion and spirituality, helping to shape the interviewer's sense of religious sensitivity and later engagement with charismatic teachers.
Harrison Hill - The Aggressive Christianity Missions Training Corps
Q: How did the group gain followers in the early days?
Followers were recruited gradually through ministry meetings, free meals, radio shows, and personal connections; the appeal lay in charisma, a sense of belonging, and micro-communities that felt intimate and hopeful before things turned coercive.
Harrison Hill - The Aggressive Christianity Missions Training Corps
Q: What drew you to this topic and this particular group?
I was introduced to Lila/Deborah's story through close encounters and a long arc of historical documents; the narrative felt like a Petri dish for American religious history, showing how charisma, belief, and social turmoil can fuse into a dangerous cult.
Celeste Gross - Growing Up in the Children of God
Q: Can you start us at sort of the beginning of your family's journey and tell us how your parents met and how they originally joined?
Celeste explains her father, initially living on the streets and seeking belonging, joined the Children of God in his late teens, while her Brazilian mother was drawn in through family connections and devout gatherings; their union formed within a broader movement that promised community and purpose.
Dan Olson, Part 1 - Crypto, NFTs, and Tech’s War on Doubt
Q: Would you join the crypto cult?
One of the hosts asks the guest to admit susceptibility; the guest acknowledges occasional temptation but emphasizes learning, caution, and the importance of critical thinking to avoid loss.

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This show centers on firsthand experiences with high-control groups, exposing how manipulation, indoctrination, and charismatic leadership shape belief and behavior. Across episodes, conversations blend survivor testimony with expert analysis to unpack the dynamics of coercive influence, love bombing, and social manipulation, while offering practical guidance for recognizing red flags and rebuilding lives after exit. Notable strengths include empathetic hosting, rigorous research, and a balance of serious critique with accessible storytelling that helps listeners understand why people join and stay in high-control environments—and how to safely exit or support others who do.

What stands out is the hosts' lived experience as former participa... more

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2. Maria Bamford
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