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Trust Me: Cults, Extreme Belief, and Manipulation

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Cults
Mental Health
Manipulation
Scientology
Christianity
High-Control Groups
2x2s
John Of God
FLDS
Cultural Revolution
Spirituality
Mao Zedong
Domestic Violence
Psychosis
Mormonism
Sexual Abuse
Red Guards
Financial Exploitation
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Trust Me is a weekly interview podcast about cults, extreme belief, and the fine line between devotion and delusion—told through firsthand accounts from the people who lived it. Hosted by two women who’ve been in cults themselves, Lola Blanc and Meagan Elizabeth, the show features survivors from groups like Heaven’s Gate, the Manson Family, NXIVM, OneTaste and more–sharing personal stories of how ... more

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Today is part 1 with Anke Richter, journalist, author of Cult Trip, former member of Tantric group International School of Temple Arts, and founder and director of New Zealand’s cult conference DeCult. In this week’s episode she shares how she began ... more

This week is part two with Sophie Fergi, former child influencer featured in the Netflix docuseries Bad Influence: The Dark Side of Kidfluencing. In this episode, she shares what happened after she and her mom moved in with Piper Rockelle and Piper's... more

This week is part one with Sophie Fergi, former child influencer who told her story in the Netflix docuseries Bad Influence: The Dark Side of Kidfluencing. In this episode, she explains how she first met YouTube kidfluencer Piper Rockelle, and how Pi... more

This week, the girls are back with Jasper Hoffman, writer, podcaster, and former Mennonite. In part two today, Jasper explains what the perfect Mennonite woman looked like, how concerns were raised when she wasn't compliant enough, and how over time ... more

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Recent Guests

Anke Richter
Journalist, author of Cult Trip, former member of ISTA
International School of Temple Arts (ISTA)
Episode: Anke Richter, Part 1 - Ecstatic Dancing, Tantric Sex, and Joining ISTA
Sophie Fergi
Actual influencer, former child influencer, featured in Netflix docu-series Bad Influence, The Dark Side of Kidfluencing
Self / Influencer
Episode: Sophie Fergi, Part 1 - Kidfluencing, Joining the Squad, and the Dark Side of YouTube
Jasper Hoffman
Writer, podcaster, and former Mennonite
Plain People's Podcast / The Plain People's Podcast
Episode: Jasper Hoffman, Part 1 - From Atheists to Mennonites
Christine Marie
Dr. Christine Marie (Christine Marie)
Self/Guest
Episode: Dr. Christine Marie - Undercover in a Cult Town: Taking Down False Prophet Sam Bateman
Nikki G.
Host of Surviving the Black Church, survivor of multiple cults
Surviving the Black Church
Episode: Nikki G, Part 2 - The Seven Mountain Mandate, “Church Hurt,” and Why Cults Aren’t Just a White People Problem
Maria Bamford
Legendary comic, actor, and author of Sure I'll Join Your Cult
Author/Comedian
Episode: Maria Bamford - 12 Step Programs, OCD, and How to Join Every Group
Sarah Edmondson
Survivor of NXIVM and host of A Little Bit Culty
NXIVM survivor, author of Scarred and co-host of A Little Bit Culty
Episode: Sarah Edmondson, Part 1 - Joining NXIVM, Meeting Keith Raniere, and Moving Up the Ranks
Nomz Bistline
Survivor of a coercive group led by Samuel Bateman
Netflix docuseries Trust Me, The False Prophet
Episode: Nomzia Bistline, Part 2 - Raided by the FBI, Life in Prison, and Breaking Free From Sam Bateman
Lyndsey Burr
Longtime reality television producer who worked on America's Next Top Model
Producer, ANTM
Episode: Lyndsey Burr - Producing America’s Next Top Model

Hosts

Lola Blanc
Host with lived experience in cults; co-creator and podcast personality known for compassionate inquiry into manipulation and belief systems.
Meagan Elizabeth
Co-host with deep empathy and critical lens; guides conversations and amplifies survivor perspectives.

Reviews

4.6 out of 5 stars from 4.7k ratings
  • Loving it

    I do love a good cult tell all. The ins and outs, the ups and downs, the parallels and the vast differences.

    Remembering where the two of you have come from, I think it’s remarkable the work you are doing.

    One small request, is there any way to get Jasper‘s mom in an interview? I feel like that could be an entire separate thing. Understanding why she let her daughter go outside of the community to seek therapy. Anyway! Love you ladies.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Manda_Panda17
    United Statesa month ago
  • Please put part 2 out on time

    I really love your podcast but you do so many part 1s and part 2s. It’s frustrating when you don’t put part 2 out on time the next week. Where is the Sarah Edmondson Part 2 episode?

    Apple Podcasts
    3
    Not2day888
    United States2 months ago
  • Oprah

    Too much glorification of Oprah in episode lest we forget son of John was not her only intro of perpetrators in the world lest we forget Dr Oz and Dr Phil as well as the guy that made up the book A Million Little pieces:James Frey!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    MelWStew
    United States4 months ago
  • Empathetic

    Love their attitude of empathy, since they understand how one gets confused in their thinking , and their drawing of parallels to cult like behavior around beauty standards, AI use etc.

    These women are smart and have on great guests so each episode is interesting, even if I didn’t think I’d relate I can learn something from each one. Thanks for keeping it real ladies !!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Themzez
    United States5 months ago
  • Great show!

    I’ve been listening since they joined ERM and I don’t want to say it’s been a pleasure . . . but this is a great show that is really elevated by the hosts deep understanding of high control tactics. Highly recommend!!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Dovie11
    United States5 months ago

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Sophie Fergi, Part 2 - Living with Piper, Constant Control, and Being Shunned by the Squad
Q: What's the most shocking thing you learned about the operation?
The scale of control, including 70 cats and the commodification of family members' labor and money, along with the use of fabricated drama to maintain dominance, was deeply disturbing and shaped Sophie's trauma.
Sophie Fergi, Part 2 - Living with Piper, Constant Control, and Being Shunned by the Squad
Q: How did the environment affect your relationship with Piper outside of filming?
They formed a genuine, off-camera friendship that felt like sisterhood, but the same dynamic was weaponized to isolate Sophie and her mom when conflicts arose, contributing to long-term trust and relationship challenges.
Sophie Fergi, Part 2 - Living with Piper, Constant Control, and Being Shunned by the Squad
Q: What was it like living with Tiffany and Piper, and how did it start?
Sophie explains the initial appeal and later the escalation: living together promised opportunities and a sense of family, but quickly devolved into restrictive, exhausting filming schedules, punitive discipline, and controlling behavior that shaped every aspect of daily life.
Jasper Hoffman, Part 1 - From Atheists to Mennonites
Q: How did the family transition from non-denominational to Mennonite life?
The transition was gradual, influenced by community connections from homeschool groups to church networks, with revival weeks sparking exposure to Mennonite beliefs, leading to a move toward more established Mennonite practices and a relocation to the Midwest, where they found a church and school aligned with their goals.
Jasper Hoffman, Part 1 - From Atheists to Mennonites
Q: First of all, what does 'plain people' refer to?
Plain People is a term used for conservative Anabaptist churches, including Amish, Mennonite, and Brethren, describing communities that aim to separate from worldly influences; Jasper explains the spectrum and how these groups interact, including revival efforts and the role of education and community structure.

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This show centers on firsthand experiences with high-control groups, exposing how manipulation, indoctrination, and charismatic leadership shape belief and behavior. Across episodes, conversations blend survivor testimony with expert analysis to unpack the dynamics of coercive influence, love bombing, and social manipulation, while offering practical guidance for recognizing red flags and rebuilding lives after exit. Notable strengths include empathetic hosting, rigorous research, and a balance of serious critique with accessible storytelling that helps listeners understand why people join and stay in high-control environments—and how to safely exit or support others who do.

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