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To Save Us From Hell

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“The United Nations was not created in order to bring us to heaven, but in order to save us from hell,” Dag Hammersjkold told us some 60 years ago. To Save Us From Hell is a podcast that discusses the players and debates raging at the UN to keep us from that fiery furnace. Each week, UN Dispatch editor-in-chief Mark Leon Goldberg and International Relations Scholar Anjali Dayal give critical analy... more

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There was a remarkable scene at the United Nations yesterday as the President of the General Assembly and former German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock read ou... more

An Ebola outbreak is spiraling in the Democratic Republic of the Congo — and one of the clearest lessons from past outbreaks is that Ebola requires multilateralism: countries working together through existing institutions like the United Nations and ... more

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The Security Council is weighing yet another U.S.-backed resolution on the Strait of Hormuz that is probably doomed from the start. In this first segment, Anjali ... more

On Tuesday and Wednesday this week, the four candidates for UN Secretary-General made their case at the UN General Assembly. Across twelve hours spanning two days, they took questions from UN member states and civil society groups eager to learn more... more

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Recent Guests

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Newly elected city official in New York City
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Heba Aly
Director of the Article 109 Coalition
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Maya Ungar
UN analyst at the International Crisis Group
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Dr. Grazyna Daranowska
International legal scholar and vice chair of the UN's Working Group on Involuntary and Enforced Disappearances
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Episode: A UN Expert on Enforced Disappearances Investigates the U.S. Detention of Venezuelan Migrants in El Salvador
Michael Sheldrick
Co-founder of Global Citizen focused on financing for global development.
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Richard Gowan
United Nations Director for the International Crisis Group, responsible for UN liaison work
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Kayla Redstone
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Richard Ponzio
Director of the Global Governance, Justice and Security Program and a Senior Fellow at the Stimson Center
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Episode: Everything You Need to Know About the Summit of the Future
Vanessa Frazier
Malta's Ambassador to the United Nations
Malta
Episode: What Would a Second Trump Presidency Mean for the UN?| An Interview with Malta's UN Ambassador

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Mark Leon Goldberg
Host of the show; co-host, journalist covering the United Nations
Anjali Dayal
Co-host; Associate professor of international politics

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Will the Security Council Back a Gaza Stabilization Force? | Trump vs. the International Maritime Organization | Plus: Heba Aly on a New Push for UN Charter Reform
Q: What makes charter reform the sort of important spot to focus in on when we think about competing visions for the UN's future?
Current reforms don't tackle fundamental dysfunctions like the veto power and the outdated concepts locking the UN into a World War II mindset.
Will the Security Council Back a Gaza Stabilization Force? | Trump vs. the International Maritime Organization | Plus: Heba Aly on a New Push for UN Charter Reform
Q: Where did this idea originate?
It's built into the UN itself and designed for reform, but has lacked a political mobilization strategy to bring it into action.
Will the Security Council Back a Gaza Stabilization Force? | Trump vs. the International Maritime Organization | Plus: Heba Aly on a New Push for UN Charter Reform
Q: Can you just discuss a little bit about how thus far you are intending to put this idea into action?
We are trying to raise awareness about this pathway for change that many diplomats aren't even aware of, and create a group of friends of member states to discuss the charter reform idea.
Searching for Compromiso in Seville | Is Rafael Grossi Radioactive?
Q: How do you think the geopolitical situation right now affected these talks as opposed to the talks 10 years ago?
The geopolitical context prominently displayed tensions between major powers and shaped discussions at the conference, highlighting Europe's role in advocating for development and cooperation.
Can Peacekeepers in Lebanon Stop a War? | How Should the UN Engage the Taliban? | Plus, What Does China Want from the United Nations?
Q: How has China’s relationship to the United Nations changed as it becomes more powerful internationally?
China's role has evolved from a low-profile participant to a crucial player, leveraging its permanent Security Council membership to influence global governance.

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Two hosts with deep experience analyzing United Nations diplomacy offer timely, critical takes on multilateralism, security council maneuvering, and humanitarian governance. The show consistently weighs how international institutions, regional power dynamics, and national politics shape UN-led responses to crises—from health outbreaks and peacekeeping to sanctions, diplomacy, and leadership selection. Across episodes, the conversation emphasizes the limits and possibilities of the UN in a rapidly shifting geopolitical landscape, the politics of funding and reform, and the strategic framing of major global events. Notable patterns include sustained focus on the Security Council, humanitarian corridors, and the race to lead the UN, all discus... more

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