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This Is Not Church Podcast

This Is Not Church
Deconstruction
Christianity
Spirituality
Christian Nationalism
Evangelicalism
Racial Justice
Social Justice
LGBTQIA+ Community
LGBTQIA+ Rights
Conversion Therapy
Black Lives Matter
Faith Journey
Community
Donald Trump
Spiritual Awakening
LGBTQ+ Rights
Mental Health
Evangelical Church
Grief
Conservative Evangelicalism

This Is Not Church podcast offers a compelling and thought-provoking exploration of the intersections between deconstruction, activism, spirituality, and the LGBTQIA+ community, as well as vital issues like Black Lives Matter and First Nations' rights. Hosted by passionate individuals who are dedicated to fostering open and inclusive conversations, this podcast delves into the complex journey of d... more

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Recent Guests

Tony Jones
Author of The God of Wild Places; theologian and commentator on emerging church and Christian spirituality
Author; Fuller Theological Seminary; The Loft Literary Center
Episode: The God Of Wild Places: A Conversation With Tony Jones
Mary Fontana
Author of Strangers In The Province Of Joy; Volunteer at Annunciation House
Annunciation House; Orbis Books (publisher)
Episode: Strangers In The Province Of Joy: A Conversation With Mary Fontana
Paldrom Collins
Author of Girl in a Box, Tibetan Buddhist nun in the memoir
Author
Episode: Girl In A Box: A Conversation With Paldrom Catharine Collins
Damon Garcia
Public theologian, writer, video essayist, author of The God Who Riots
Independent/Author
Episode: You Don't Need A Calling: A Conversation With Damon Garcia
Paul Bramadat
Director of the Centre for Studies in Religion and Society at the University of Victoria; co-editor of Religion at the Edge
University of Victoria; Religion at the Edge
Episode: August Rebroadcast: A Conversation With Paul Bramadat
John Dominic Crossan
Premier historical Jesus scholar, author
Jesus Seminar / Loyola University Chicago (affiliation as inferred from conversation)
Episode: Jesus And Justice: A Conversation With John Dominic Crossan & Michael Okinczyc-Cruz
Michael Okinczyc-Cruz
Executive director and co-founder of the Coalition for Spiritual and Public Leadership
Coalition for Spiritual and Public Leadership (CSPL)
Episode: Jesus And Justice: A Conversation With John Dominic Crossan & Michael Okinczyc-Cruz
Jack R. Reese
Pastor, university professor, seminary dean, community activist and author
Former senior pastor and educator; author of Grace Sideways and related works
Episode: Grace Sideways: A Conversation With Jack R Reese
Matt Distefano
Author of multiple books and co-owner of Quoir Publishing
Quoir Publishing
Episode: Saints, Sinners, And Clickers: A Conversation With Matthew Distefano

Hosts

John Turney
Co-host and primary host focusing on faith, culture, and social justice discussions.
Nat Turney
Co-host contributing critical questions and theological reflections.
Bethany Shea
Co-host and writer who guides conversations with guests.

Reviews

4.7 out of 5 stars from 81 ratings
  • Honest

    Asks the tough questions. Christians need to learn to accept that faith means answering most questions with “I don’t know” and erring on the side of love.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    mk6six
    United Statesa year ago
  • Ballsy Christian Honesty

    Educated Christians with the guts to say and question anything. Thought provoking work that helps broaden my idea sphere and thinking.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    keltygirl
    United States4 years ago
  • Thought-provoking, encouraging, and challenging!

    I have thoroughly enjoyed this podcast since its inception. Jon and Nat not only share honest and often funny conversations with each other, they do a brilliant job of bringing out the best in their guests. And the range of views and expressions of faith/spiritually in their guests is refreshing! I don’t think I’ve heard an episode yet from which I haven’t come away feel enriched mentally, emotionally, spiritually, or all three. Keep up the great work, guys! ~~~Joni

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    JondeeH
    United States4 years ago
  • Best guests

    I love this podcast. The Turney bros. get the best guests. Ask great questions. Couldn't ask for more. Thanks guys!!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    DaveyTee
    Australia5 years ago
  • Love the honesty & sincerity!

    More people & podcasts are talking these days about the things Jesus taught (in the 4 gospels), but there are a few of his teachings that almost never get serious coverage. Several references (EXCLUDING the “rich young ruler”) are made in Luke about selling all of one’s possessions & giving to the poor and then this teaching is shown to be taken seriously by the time we get to the book of Acts (end of chapters 2 & 4).

    Another powerful & often neglected paradigm-changing (IF taken at face value... more

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    Mt.6:24
    United States5 years ago

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High-quality guests and engaging hosts who push for inclusive faith perspectives.
Genuine, compassionate dialogue that invites tough questions about faith.

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Strangers In The Province Of Joy: A Conversation With Mary Fontana
Q: We usually begin talking about maybe you're religious and that kind of upbringing; how has that shaped your work today?
Fontana explains growing up cradle Catholic, with a Jesuit education and a strong emphasis on social justice, which informed her commitment to immigration work and Catholic social teaching as lived practice.
You Don't Need A Calling: A Conversation With Damon Garcia
Q: Can you describe the core idea of You Don't Need a Calling and how it intersects with capitalism?
The core idea is that you already are enough and don't need to chase a grand calling shaped by success; true purpose can be found in everyday, present-moment actions, while recognizing how capitalism pressures people to measure worth by achievement and wealth.
Pride Month Rebroadcast: A Conversation With Matthew Vines
Q: How do you reconcile Paul's writings with contemporary same-sex relationships?
Paul's stance is historically contextual, focusing on cultural practices of his time; modern faithful interpretation seeks to uphold scripture while recognizing lifelong, monogamous same-sex unions as compatible with covenantal ideals.
The Way Of The Desert Elders: A Conversation With Lisa Colón DeLay
Q: How would you encourage people into contemplative spaces in today's busy culture?
She advocates for practical steps like engaging a trained spiritual director, joining guided retreats, and creating small moments of silence in daily life, emphasizing that contemplative life is a discipline that can be practiced anywhere and with community support.
The Way Of The Desert Elders: A Conversation With Lisa Colón DeLay
Q: Did you find your upbringing as a more fundamentalist experience, and was your education lacking in this area?
She reflects on the rigidity of early fundamentalist circles, the risk of excluding others, and the value of encountering diverse historical sources and traditions that broaden understanding, especially early Christian voices and desert spirituality.

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1. Tony Jones
2. Mary Fontana
3. Paldrom Collins
4. Damon Garcia
5. Paul Bramadat
6. John Dominic Crossan
7. Michael Okinczyc-Cruz
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