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The Way Out Is In

Plum Village
Mindfulness
Thich Nhat Hanh
Buddhism
Plum Village
Compassion
Meditation
Suffering
Personal Transformation
Community
Climate Change
Interbeing
Collective Healing
Right Livelihood
The Eight Realizations Of Great Beings
Noble Eightfold Path
Trauma
Mental Health
Manas
Impermanence
Community Building

This podcast series is aimed at helping us to transcend our fear and anger so that we can be more engaged in the world in a way that develops love and compassion. Thich Nhat Hanh’s calligraphy ‘The Way Out Is In” highlights that the way out of any difficulty is to look deeply within, gain insights and then put them into practice. "The Way Out is In" is co-hosted by Brother Phap Huu, Thich Nhat Han... more

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Recent Guests

Shantum Seth
Guide on pilgrimage, long-time facilitator in Plum Village
Plum Village lineage
Episode: In the Footsteps of the Buddha (5/6) | The River of Life (Episode #106)
Sister Tam Muoi
Nun and participant in the pilgrimage
Plum Village
Episode: In the Footsteps of the Buddha (5/6) | The River of Life (Episode #106)
Ocean Vuong
Vietnamese-American poet, essayist, and novelist.
Episode: Cultivating Joy and Togetherness in the Midst of Hardship (Episode #95)
Jo-ann Rosen
An expert on trauma, blending neuroscience and mindfulness
Episode: Trauma and Collective Healing (Episode #92)
Joanna Macy
Eco-philosopher and Buddhist scholar
Episode: Joanna Macy’s Message of Hope
Brother Phap Linh
Professional musician and monk
Plum Village
Episode: Feel It to Heal It: The Dharma of Music (Episode #79)
Jack Panate
Producer and musician
Independent Producer
Episode: Feel It to Heal It: The Dharma of Music (Episode #79)
Brother Spirit
Monk and musician
Plum Village
Episode: Feel It to Heal It: The Dharma of Music (Episode #79)
Kate Raworth
Creator of Doughnut Economics, an advocate for sustainable economics
Doughnut Economics Action Lab
Episode: Mindful Economics: In Conversation with Kate Raworth (Episode #74)

Hosts

Jo Confino
Host focused on personal transformation and systems change; connected to Plum Village and Global Optimism.
Brother Phap Huu
Zen Buddhist monk, co-host, and teacher; long-time Plum Village practitioner.

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 5.5k ratings
  • I needed this

    Thank you for this podcast. I needed this. It helps center me and keeps me focused on what’s important.

    Update on 5/18/26: never have I ever listened to 106 episodes of anything, but I have now listened to every one you have made and I enjoy it just as much as I did from the beginning. I learn so much from each and every person involved and for that I thank you.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    dontwanttowriteareview
    United States21 days ago
  • Being with Painful Feelings (Episode 73)

    I appreciate this podcast and especially this episode. I use the Plum Village app (which also contains this podcast) and Episode 73 helped me immensely. It gives a concrete, clear path on dealing with painful feelings. Thank you.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Elizabeth Sc
    United Statesa month ago
  • Makes my day!

    I love listening to these when I’m at work or just on a walk! The hosts and guests are always so insightful and have such a great calming presence. I especially love the short meditations at the end!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    maize stalk
    United Statesa month ago
  • Healing

    I am so thankful for this watering. I truly feel my spirit being encouraged to look within. This is such a gift to us all.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Lil night nurse
    United States2 months ago
  • What the world needs

    This podcast has completely changed the way I think about all of the challenges facing our society and gives me hope. Also it’s not boring and enjoyable to listen to.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    SJP2210
    Canada2 months ago

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Audience feedback often notes the balance of historical context with contemporary application, though some criticisms mention political conversations at times.
Episodes on trauma-informed practice and collective healing are frequently highlighted as impactful.
Listeners praise the calming, compassionate delivery and practical mindfulness guidance.

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Walking the Path (Episode #99)
Q: How would you describe where you are on the path?
My inner child is less afraid of the world. I am more at home in my own skin and can step into spaces with who I am.
Inner Space (Episode #98)
Q: What is the benefit of having an empty mind?
An empty mind allows for creativity and allows life to show up, leading to greater insights.
Cultivating Joy and Togetherness in the Midst of Hardship (Episode #95)
Q: Can you offer any advice around how to sit with oneself?
Phap Huu suggests practices like touching the earth and surrendering to the earth, where one acknowledges their pain and suffering openly.
Trauma and Collective Healing (Episode #92)
Q: How does Collective Healing work and how does it differ from individual healing?
Collective healing involves the sharing of individual experiences within a community, which can lead to empowerment and healing for the group as a whole, rather than solely focusing on individual pain.
Trauma and Collective Healing (Episode #92)
Q: How does trauma operate on a historical and current function?
Trauma can result from both historical and current experiences. Individual and collective traumas can be present, affecting people in different ways, from small to large incidents.

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This show centers on mindfulness, compassionate action, and transformative personal and societal change through Buddhist practice and Plum Village lineage. Conversations weave through historical and contemporary contexts—from monastic life and intergenerational transmission of teachings to practical applications for everyday life, healing, and climate-conscious living. Notable guests and episodes add depth on lineage, gender equality in the Sangha, trauma-informed approaches, and cultural identity, all while maintaining a calm, accessible vibe that invites reflection rather than debate. The format often blends personal storytelling with pragmatic guidance, making it appealing to listeners seeking inner growth, community connection, and ways... more

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2. Sister Tam Muoi
3. Ocean Vuong
4. Jo-ann Rosen
5. Joanna Macy
6. Brother Phap Linh
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