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The Way Out Is In

Plum Village
Mindfulness
Thich Nhat Hanh
Buddhism
Plum Village
Compassion
Meditation
Suffering
Personal Transformation
Community
Interbeing
Climate Change
Collective Healing
The Eight Realizations Of Great Beings
Right Livelihood
Noble Eightfold Path
Trauma
Mental Health
Manas
Impermanence
Community Building

This podcast series is aimed at helping us to transcend our fear and anger so that we can be more engaged in the world in a way that develops love and compassion. Thich Nhat Hanh’s calligraphy ‘The Way Out Is In” highlights that the way out of any difficulty is to look deeply within, gain insights and then put them into practice. "The Way Out is In" is co-hosted by Brother Phap Huu, Thich Nhat Han... more

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Recent Guests

Minh Huong
Vietnamese business leader, mentor, and exponent of Plum Village teachings
Vietnamese business leader; runs multiple companies
Episode: Dharma and Business (Episode #112)
Brother Phap Xa
Monk, author of Hiking Zen
Plum Village
Episode: Hiking Zen (Episode #110)
Shantum Seth
Guide on pilgrimage, long-time facilitator in Plum Village
Plum Village lineage
Episode: In the Footsteps of the Buddha (5/6) | The River of Life (Episode #106)
Sister Tam Muoi
Nun and participant in the pilgrimage
Plum Village
Episode: In the Footsteps of the Buddha (5/6) | The River of Life (Episode #106)
Ocean Vuong
Vietnamese-American poet, essayist, and novelist.
Episode: Cultivating Joy and Togetherness in the Midst of Hardship (Episode #95)
Jo-ann Rosen
An expert on trauma, blending neuroscience and mindfulness
Episode: Trauma and Collective Healing (Episode #92)
Joanna Macy
Eco-philosopher and Buddhist scholar
Episode: Joanna Macy’s Message of Hope
Brother Phap Linh
Professional musician and monk
Plum Village
Episode: Feel It to Heal It: The Dharma of Music (Episode #79)
Jack Panate
Producer and musician
Independent Producer
Episode: Feel It to Heal It: The Dharma of Music (Episode #79)

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Jo Confino
Host and co-presenter, leadership coach and spiritual mentor
Brother Phap Huu
Zen Buddhist monk and co-host, Thich Nhat Hanh Foundation / Plum Village

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 5.6k ratings
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    sunflowheure
    20 days ago
  • Plum Village to go

    I am so happy and grateful that this podcast exists. Really helps with my practice and return to mindfulness. Big shout out to Jo Confino and Br Phap Huu!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    lukukukuko
    Germany3 months ago
  • I needed this

    Thank you for this podcast. I needed this. It helps center me and keeps me focused on what’s important.

    Update on 5/18/26: never have I ever listened to 106 episodes of anything, but I have now listened to every one you have made and I enjoy it just as much as I did from the beginning. I learn so much from each and every person involved and for that I thank you.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    dontwanttowriteareview
    United States3 months ago
  • Being with Painful Feelings (Episode 73)

    I appreciate this podcast and especially this episode. I use the Plum Village app (which also contains this podcast) and Episode 73 helped me immensely. It gives a concrete, clear path on dealing with painful feelings. Thank you.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Elizabeth Sc
    United States4 months ago
  • Makes my day!

    I love listening to these when I’m at work or just on a walk! The hosts and guests are always so insightful and have such a great calming presence. I especially love the short meditations at the end!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    maize stalk
    United States4 months ago

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Calm, insightful, and practical mindfulness for daily life.
Guests and hosts bring deep wisdom and compassionate leadership.

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Hiking Zen (Episode #110)
Q: Can you describe what feeling arises when walking in silence with others?
There is a felt sense of connection and shared peace among walkers; it's a quiet support that allows individuals to touch nature and each other without needing to speak.
Walking the Path (Episode #99)
Q: How would you describe where you are on the path?
My inner child is less afraid of the world. I am more at home in my own skin and can step into spaces with who I am.
Inner Space (Episode #98)
Q: What is the benefit of having an empty mind?
An empty mind allows for creativity and allows life to show up, leading to greater insights.
Cultivating Joy and Togetherness in the Midst of Hardship (Episode #95)
Q: Can you offer any advice around how to sit with oneself?
Phap Huu suggests practices like touching the earth and surrendering to the earth, where one acknowledges their pain and suffering openly.
Trauma and Collective Healing (Episode #92)
Q: How does Collective Healing work and how does it differ from individual healing?
Collective healing involves the sharing of individual experiences within a community, which can lead to empowerment and healing for the group as a whole, rather than solely focusing on individual pain.

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1. Minh Huong
2. Brother Phap Xa
3. Shantum Seth
4. Sister Tam Muoi
5. Ocean Vuong
6. Jo-ann Rosen
7. Joanna Macy
8. Brother Phap Linh

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