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The Two Cities is a podcast dedicated to Theology, Culture, and Discipleship. Originally beginning as a blog back in 2011 (thetwocities.com), we have extended our eclectic array of theological integration to the world of podcasting. Co-hosts and contributors include: Dr. Amber Bowen, Dr. Josh Carroll, Dr. John Anthony Dunne, Dr. Grace Emmett, Jennifer Guo, Dr. Brandon Hurlbert, Stephanie Kate Judd... more

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In this episode, we're joined by Dr. Elisabeth Lefebvre (associate professor of Education at Bethel University in Saint Paul, MN) and Dr. Kristin VanEyk (assistant professor of English Education at Hope College in Holland, MI). Together, they are the... more

In this episode, we're joined by Haejin and Makoto Fujimura. Together they're the authors of Beauty & Justice: Creating a Life of Abundance and Courage (published by Brazos). Haejin Shim Fujimura is a lawyer, entrepreneur, speaker, and strategist who... more

In this episode, we're joined by Dr. T. Christopher Hoklotubbe, who is associate professor of indigenous theological studies at Bexley Seabury Seminary in Chicago and NAIITS: An Indigenous Learning Community, and Dr. H. Daniel Zacharias, who is assoc... more

In this episode, we're joined by Dr. Bo Lim, who is professor of Old Testament at Seattle Pacific University in Seattle, Washington, and the author of Contextual Theological Interpretation: An Integrated Model for Reading the Bible (published by Bake... more

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Recent Guests

Elisabeth Lefebvre
Associate Professor of Education at Bethel University
Bethel University
Episode: Episode #333 - Purpose & Joy with Dr. Elisabeth Lefebvre and Dr. Kristin VanEyk
Kristin VanEyk
Assistant Professor of English Education at Hope College
Hope College
Episode: Episode #333 - Purpose & Joy with Dr. Elisabeth Lefebvre and Dr. Kristin VanEyk
Haejin Shim
Lawyer; founding attorney of Shim & Associates; CEO and co-founder of Embers International
Embers International; Shim & Associates
Episode: Episode #332 - Beauty & Justice with Haejin and Makoto Fujimura
Makoto Fujimura
Artist, writer, and arts advocate
Makoto Fujimura Arts; ArtRenaissance
Episode: Episode #332 - Beauty & Justice with Haejin and Makoto Fujimura
Daniel Zacharias
Associate Dean and Professor of New Testament Studies at Acadia Divinity College; co-author of Reading the Bible on Turtle Island
Acadia Divinity College; Naiits
Episode: Episode #331 - Reading the Bible on Turtle Island with Dr. Christopher Hoklotubbe and Dr. Danny Zacharias
Christopher Hoklotubbe
Associate Professor of Indigenous Theological Studies at Bexley Seabury Seminary; co-author of Reading the Bible on Turtle Island
Bexley Seabury Seminary; Naiits
Episode: Episode #331 - Reading the Bible on Turtle Island with Dr. Christopher Hoklotubbe and Dr. Danny Zacharias
Bo Lim
Professor of Old Testament, Seattle Pacific University
Seattle Pacific University
Episode: Episode #330 - Contextual Theological Interpretation with Dr. Bo Lim
Elizabeth Backfish
Associate Professor of Biblical Studies at William Jessup University
William Jessup University
Episode: Episode #329 - Grounded Theology in the Hebrew Bible with Dr. Elizabeth Backfish and Dr. Cynthia Shafer-Elliott
Cynthia Shafer-Elliott
Associate Professor of Hebrew Bible and Old Testament at Baylor University
Baylor University
Episode: Episode #329 - Grounded Theology in the Hebrew Bible with Dr. Elizabeth Backfish and Dr. Cynthia Shafer-Elliott

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John Anthony Dunne
New Testament professor and frequent co-host/guest, often introduced as host
Josh Carroll
Co-host and regular discussion partner, frequently engages with guests on NT and hermeneutics topics
Brandon Hurlbert
Co-host and episode participant, contributes to biblical and theological discussions

Reviews

4.7 out of 5 stars from 85 ratings
  • Great listen. Every time.

    I always come away with a new sense of compassion towards some group or individual and/or a new and hopeful way of understanding and living in the world.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    AMSMaphet
    United States3 years ago
  • Great Listen!

    This review is long overdue, as I often recommend this podcast to others. Thank you Two Cities for your thoughtful dialogue as well as your introduction to other wonderful thinkers and theologians!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    rdwindham
    United States4 years ago
  • Neither beneficisl nor a blessing

    A group of pretentious junior theologians using unnecessary jargon to tell the poor average Christian how oppressive and wrong they are.

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    Dc1212a
    Norway4 years ago
  • Great Podcast - Broad subject matter, quality guests

    Congratulations on 100 episodes!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Sean_Christensen
    United States4 years ago
  • Encouraging, provoking, challenging, and fun!

    I’ve been enjoying this podcast for about a year. Each episode stands alone, but the different thematic series really allow for so much depth and nuance. I appreciate the range of voices, perspectives, and topics.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Hannah.Bri.
    United States5 years ago

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Overall, the show is viewed as a rigorous yet accessible forum for theology and culture.
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Some listeners find certain episodes overly jargon-heavy but still valuable for serious study.

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Episode #331 - Reading the Bible on Turtle Island with Dr. Christopher Hoklotubbe and Dr. Danny Zacharias
Q: Who is this book primarily for, and what was your intended audience?
They describe the book as intended for a lay audience as well as Biblical scholars, aiming to bridge scholarly work with accessible readings that empower Indigenous pastors, lay leaders, and broader communities while honoring diverse heritage.
Episode #331 - Reading the Bible on Turtle Island with Dr. Christopher Hoklotubbe and Dr. Danny Zacharias
Q: I would love to hear more about how you all have responded to accusations of pagan syncretism.
They push back by reframing syncretism as contextualization that respects Indigenous practices, asserting that early Christianity itself practiced contextualization, and emphasizing that the goal is faithful, culturally informed readings rather than rejecting Indigenous expressions.
Episode #327 - Lamb of the Free with Dr. Andrew Rillera
Q: Why is it important not to get the atonement wrong during Holy Week?
Because mischaracterizing God and the nature of Jesus' death can distort discipleship and pastoral formation; understanding the nuanced biblical context helps ensure faithful worship and accurate preaching about Good Friday and Easter.
Episode #327 - Lamb of the Free with Dr. Andrew Rillera
Q: What is your thesis in a nutshell?
The thesis is that the canonical picture of the sacrificial system goes beyond Leviticus and that New Testament authors use sacrificial and purification imagery to understand Jesus' death, focusing on non-atoning and atoning sacrifices and their relation to purity and the sanctuary.
Episode #325 - Imitation in Early Christianity with Prof. Cor Bennema
Q: What is distinctive about Johannine mimesis compared to the rest of the New Testament?
John emphasizes a Christology where the Son imitates the Father, and where disciples imitate Jesus through a pattern that emphasizes seeing and following the Father's example, creating a unique Johannine source for mimetic behavior within the Christian community.

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What is The Two Cities about and what kind of topics does it cover?

The show centers on theology, culture, and discipleship, often exploring how scholarly biblical interpretation intersects with contemporary life, culture, and social issues. Episodes frequently feature university professors, pastors, and theologians who bring methodical, historically informed perspectives to topics like Indigenous hermeneutics, gender in the church, ancient Near Eastern religion, and the reception of Scripture in media and culture. A standout trait is the breadth of guests and topics, ranging from detailed textual analysis to culturally engaged narratives, with a clear emphasis on rigor, nuance, and pastoral relevance. Potential listeners will find deeply researched discussions, thoughtful critique of mainstream assumptions... more

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1. Elisabeth Lefebvre
2. Kristin VanEyk
3. Haejin Shim
4. Makoto Fujimura
5. Daniel Zacharias
6. Christopher Hoklotubbe
7. Bo Lim
8. Elizabeth Backfish

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