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The SAF Podcast

SAF Investor
Sustainable Aviation Fuel
Decarbonization
Aviation
Biofuels
Aviation Industry
Biomass
Exolum
Renewable Energy
Feedstock
Hydrogen
China
Asia SAF Association
SAF
Wastefront
Sumitomo Mitsui Banking Corporation
Southeast Asia
Supply Chain
Flyoro
Logistics
Renewable Fuels

Welcome to The SAF Podcast, the only podcast on the internet that exclusively covers sustainable aviation fuel (SAF). So if you want to find out the real issues and challenges are for commercialising and scaling SAF production, look no further.Every week we will be hearing from senior industry leaders who are actively shaping the future of SAF and aviation.

Hosted by Oscar Henderson and brought ... more

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Latest Episodes

Certification has a reputation for being complicated. Dario Formenti, senior systems manager - sustainable fuels,  International Sustainability and Carbon Certification (ISCC) thinks that's overdone, and explains why.

On this week's episode of The S... more

This week Oscar is joined by Manshu Agarwal, CEO, HutanBio a UK based company aiming to commercialise the use of Algae as a feedstock for sustainable aviation fuel production. 

Manshu has watched the algae story play out once already. A chemical eng... more

On this week's episode of The SAF Podcast, Ryan Jackson, CEO, Cielo Waste Solutions joins Oscar to discuss the company's project platform to constructing SAF projects. 

Jackson unpacks Cielo's flagship Nahoonai project, developed in partnership with... more

This week Khaled, Ramon and Miguel of Hydrocarbon Engineering join Oscar on The SAF Podcast to tell the story behind their accidental discovery: a reactor built to  produce bio-oil that, instead, yielded a diesel-like hydrocarbon in a single step. 

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Recent Guests

Dario Formenti
Representative from ISCC (International Sustainability and Carbon Certification)
ISCC
Episode: Dario Formenti | ISCC | "It is not just a stamp" Busting SAF certification myths
Manshu Agarwal
CEO of HutanBio
HutanBio
Episode: Manshu Agarwal, HutanBio: Algae's one in a trillion chance for success
Ryan Jackson
Executive with Cielo Waste Solutions, leading clean fuels projects
Cielo Waste Solutions
Episode: Ryan Jackson, Cielo Waste Solution: Show me the carbon credits
Ramon Andreu
Co-founder, Hydrocarbon Engineering
Hydrocarbon Engineering
Episode: Hydrocarbon Engineering: The accident that revolutionised (SAF) brewing
Miguel Angel
Co-founder, Hydrocarbon Engineering
Hydrocarbon Engineering
Episode: Hydrocarbon Engineering: The accident that revolutionised (SAF) brewing
Trevor Best
Brazil representative
Syzygy
Episode: The SAF World Cup
Jim Stonecipher
US representative from EdyMac
EdyMac
Episode: The SAF World Cup
Philippe Haffner
France representative from Haffner Energy
Haffner Energy
Episode: The SAF World Cup
Izabela Santos
Sweden representative
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Episode: The SAF World Cup

Host

Oscar Henderson
Host of The SAF Podcast, moderator for events and discussions about SAF

Reviews

4.6 out of 5 stars from 16 ratings
  • Interesting interviews

    This is a good podcast to understand the complex issues of SAF. Good guests from a range of companies. However, need to invest in professional mics as sometimes the sound quality is not great and it can be hard to tell what the guests are saying.

    Apple Podcasts
    4
    martynlink
    United Kingdom2 years ago

Listeners Say

Key themes from listener reviews, highlighting what works and what could be improved about the show.

Depth on SAF finance and policy is highly actionable for practitioners.
Guests offer diverse perspectives from multiple regions.
Sound quality can be inconsistent across episodes.
Strong focus on practical steps for scaling SAF deployments.

Chart Rankings

How this podcast ranks in the Apple Podcasts, Spotify and YouTube charts.

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#172
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#27
Canada/Leisure/Aviation
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#106
United Kingdom/Leisure/Aviation
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#66
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Apple Podcasts
#91
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#92
Italy/Leisure/Aviation

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Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

Hydrocarbon Engineering: The accident that revolutionised (SAF) brewing
Q: Where are you in the TRL/certification path and what is the near-term plan to commercialize?
Current pilot operations are at TRL 6 with 30 kg per hour capacity, aiming for TRL 7-8 through longer-duration demonstrations and integration with a partner refinery or biomethane plant for early commercial deployment. Certification will follow once TRL status is clarified, likely via collaboration with a recognized certifying body or through a customer refinery pathway.
Hydrocarbon Engineering: The accident that revolutionised (SAF) brewing
Q: What is the core thesis behind Hydrocarbon Engineering and its technology?
The core thesis is a single-stage hydrothermal process that can convert biomass-derived feedstocks into a hydrocarbon fuel by transferring hydrogen from water within the biomass itself, creating a hydrocarbon liquid that can be distilled into SAF. The plant is feedstock agnostic, enabling flexible, smaller-scale deployment that could bypass some traditional refinery constraints.
Alasdair Lumsden, Carbon Neutral Fuels: Ctrl C, Ctrl V-ing future of eSAF
Q: What are your current fundraising plans and what kind of investors are you targeting for Series A?
We are raising around 24 million, aiming to close by the end of the summer with a lead investor that understands the markets and potential post‑project finance. We're engaging strategic investors and patient capital, supported by Namir Capital, and leveraging AFF Window 3/4 as a force multiplier to bring in strategic alignment and capital efficiency.
Alasdair Lumsden, Carbon Neutral Fuels: Ctrl C, Ctrl V-ing future of eSAF
Q: Can you summarize the core proposition of Carbon Neutral Fuels and the technology stack you're assembling for Project Starling?
We're pursuing a commercial‑scale PTL facility using a combination of FT liquids technology via FT CAN, licensed from HM, with UOP refining to kerosene and green naphtha, complemented by a high‑temperature SOEC for hydrogen and heat integration. The stack is deliberately de‑risked through established licensors, with IO Consulting handling front‑end loading and a clear path from pre‑feed to EPC.
Alasdair Lumsden, Carbon Neutral Fuels: Ctrl C, Ctrl V-ing future of eSAF
Q: Alasdair, thanks so much for joining us. How did you come to focus on Power to Liquid SAF and what drew you to this sector?
The appeal lies in turning CO2 and waste heat into hydrocarbons using electricity as the energy source, effectively mimicking natural photosynthesis in a synthetic loop, but with a focus on scalable, high‑TRL technology components and a design that leverages waste heat and solid oxide electrolysis to improve efficiency and economics.

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What is The SAF Podcast about and what kind of topics does it cover?

A drama-free, data-driven discussions show that centers on scalable SAF (sustainable aviation fuel) adoption, policy dynamics, financing, and technology. Episodes regularly pit regional perspectives against each other, illuminate feedstock economics, and explore how pilots, regulations, and capital come together to unlock large-scale SAF deployment. Notable is the mix of hands-on operators, investors, and policy experts who provide practical lessons on project finance, risk sharing, and technology choices, making it useful for listeners who want to understand what it takes to move SAF from demonstration to market. The format often blends technical depth with candid industry realism, offering listeners clear signals on who to partner with, w... more

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1. Dario Formenti
2. Manshu Agarwal
3. Ryan Jackson
4. Ramon Andreu
5. Miguel Angel
6. Trevor Best
7. Jim Stonecipher
8. Philippe Haffner

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