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Cleaning Up: Leadership in an Age of Climate Change

Michael Liebreich, Bryony Worthington
Climate Change
Fossil Fuels
The Uninhabitable Earth
Renewable Energy
Sustainability
New York Magazine
COP28
RCP 8.5
Climate Strikes
Greta Thunberg
Jim Hansen
Sunrise Movement
China
Extinction Rebellion
Clean Energy
Energy Transition
Iron-Air Battery
Storytelling
Futerra
Inflation Reduction Act

Once a week, Michael Liebreich and Bryony Worthington have a conversation with a leader in clean energy, mobility, climate finance or sustainable development. Informative, inspiring and fun!

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Why does Africa, home to 18% of the world’s population, receive just 1% of global energy investment? What’s stopping money from flowing to the continent when it has such good wind and solar potential? And what would it take to unlock an energy boom t... more

How do we build a clean energy system while bringing UK bills down? Can the UK’s landmark Climate Change Act stand up to a fractured climate politics? And does increasing global instability make home-grown energy more important than ever?

This week’... more

Is the link between oil and geopolitics starting to diminish? Has climate consensus fractured just as clean energy hits escape velocity? And are batteries, not barrels, becoming the true source of power and security?

In the first episode of Season 1... more

This episode was originally broadcast in June 2023, watch the episode on YouTube here. Cleaning Up will return with new episodes January 7th, 2026. 

Tzeporah Berman has been leading environmental campaigns in her native Canada and beyond for over th... more

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Recent Guests

Clemens Calice
CEO and Founder of Cygnum Capital, a financial organization focused on Africa.
Cygnum Capital
Episode: ⁠Is Africa Poised To Be A Clean Energy Powerhouse? Ep241: Clemens Calice
Katie White
UK Climate Minister, MP for Leeds North West, and advocate for climate action.
UK Government
Episode: Climate Action vs Cost of Living: Can We Do Both? | Ep240: Katie White, UK Climate Minister
Tzeporah Berman
Executive director of Stand.earth and founder of the Fossil Fuel Non-Proliferation Treaty
Stand.earth
Episode: Cleaning Up Redux: Canada's Controversial Queen of Green — Tzeporah Berman
John Browne
Former CEO of BP and managing director at General Atlantic, co-founder of the growth equity fund BeyondNetZero.
General Atlantic
Episode: Honey, I Shrunk the Oil And Gas Sector | Ep237: Lord John Browne
Seb Kennedy
A journalist who takes a keen interest in energy, especially gas markets, and the founder of Energy Flux.
Energy Flux
Episode: Why Does The UK Pay So Much For Cheap-To-Produce Gas? | Ep236: Seb Kennedy
Rob Dunn
CEO of Start Campus, responsible for building Europe's largest sustainable data center.
Start Campus
Episode: Inside Europe’s Largest AI Data Centre: A Green Giant Rises | Ep235: Robert Dunn
Liane Randolph
Former chair of the California Air Resources Board
California Air Resources Board
Episode: California vs Trump In The Battle For Clean Air | Ep234: Liane Randolph
Tim Meyerjürgens
CEO of TenneT Germany, a major transmission system operator in Germany.
TenneT Germany
Episode: ⁠The €65 Billion Plan to Modernise Germany’s Grids | Ep233: Tim Meyerjürgens
Kingsmill Bond
Director and strategist at Ember, with a background in financial market analysis and energy transition
Ember
Episode: The Electrotech Revolution Will Not Be Fossilized | Ep231: Kingsmill Bond

Hosts

Michael Liebreich
Co-founder of Bloomberg New Energy Finance and an influential figure in the clean energy sector, Michael Liebreich has extensive expertise in energy, transportation, and climate change. He engages critically with guests to draw out insights, making complex topics accessible.
Bryony Worthington
A prominent advocate for climate action and sustainable development, Bryony Worthington brings experience from her work with environmental policy and legislation, supporting climate solutions and renewable energy initiatives.

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 669 ratings
  • Great podcast series from an OG!

    Liebreich has been involved with renewable energy for many years, starting Bloomberg New Energy Finance (BNEF) years ago and his experience shows. Many of these episodes include captivating discussions and clarity around current issues in renewables. Liebreich isn’t shy on providing his well researched opinion and rationale behind it.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    He's Thrifty Allright
    United States5 months ago
  • Excellent, fascinating and important info from experts!

    Podcast Addict
    5
    SCSierraDave
    5 months ago
  • uplift with Tessa Khan

    What clarity Tessa brings - so many parallels with the state of play in australia with the entrenched influence of coal and gas.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    zi ying cav
    Australia6 months ago
  • High opener

    Super informative podcast with great speakers and plenty of food for thought. Michael and his guests are incredible sparring partners and it is a pleasure to listen and learn

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    thommy2t
    Belgium6 months ago
  • Insightful

    I always enjoy listening to Cleaning Up, where Michael Liebreich - with his extensive background in both engineering and finance - asks tough and insightful questions of his guests. I noticed this again this week in his interview of Ben van Beurden, former CEO of Shell.

    Cleaning Up brings a cutting edge view of the energy transition, both in terms of what’s driving it and what is blocking it.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    RogerlG
    Canada7 months ago

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Feedback indicates a positive reception towards the hosts' ability to challenge perspectives and delve into pressing environmental challenges.
Listeners appreciate the depth and variety of insights on clean energy and climate issues.
Some critiques suggest a need for balance in guest perspectives to reflect diverse viewpoints in climate discussions.

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⁠Is Africa Poised To Be A Clean Energy Powerhouse? Ep241: Clemens Calice
Q: What percentage of your activities are Africa?
It's probably 75 to 80 percent at the moment.
Cleaning Up Redux: Canada's Controversial Queen of Green — Tzeporah Berman
Q: Can you describe who you are, what you do in your own words?
I've been working for the last 30 years on environmental policy, climate policy, and advocacy, focusing on social change and designing advocacy campaigns.
Cleaning Up Redux: Hot Rocks in a Box — Anand Gopal
Q: Could you share some insights on the recent research you've published regarding electricity use in industry to replace fossil fuels?
Anand explains the importance of electrifying industrial processes for achieving significant emissions reductions, emphasizing the efficiency and cost-effectiveness of this transition.
Cleaning Up Redux: Hot Rocks in a Box — Anand Gopal
Q: Do you want to just kick things off by telling us who you are and what you do?
Anand introduces himself as the Executive Director at Energy Innovation, focusing on research for clean technology solutions to meet climate challenges.
Inside Europe’s Largest AI Data Centre: A Green Giant Rises | Ep235: Robert Dunn
Q: Can you just tell us how much, because you are building the building and the cooling and some of the electrical infrastructure which we'll get into, and then your customers are filling it with the GPUs, with the chips, with all the equipment, how much is, when it reaches 1.2 gigawatts, when it's fully built out as a campus?
We're looking at 40 billion of IT equipment going in to add on to the 10 billion that we're spending.

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Episodes frequently explore pressing topics related to clean energy, climate finance, and sustainable development, featuring leaders and experts in these fields. Conversations shed light on complex issues ranging from the energy transition and regulatory challenges to the intersection of politics and climate action. Through engaging dialogues, listeners gain insights into strategies and innovations driving the clean energy sector forward, while also addressing the urgent need for sustainable practices globally. The show stands out for its commitment to presenting diverse perspectives and critical analyses of contemporary climate challenges, making it a valuable resource for individuals seeking clarity and depth in discussions about environm... more

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